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The most fundamentally disappointing aspect of Harris is that she’s had all the room in the world for ambiguity and platitudes to sweep the problem under the rug. She doesn’t need to even promise anything, just indicate she’s concerned about the motivations of the far right Israeli government and will look at all options to promote a just and peaceful Middle East. Expressing the vague potential to confront a far-right Israeli government isn’t going to lose her any Democratic votes, at least not in places as important as Michigan where not doing it is a potentially campaign defining choice.
It’s like the centrist establishment has some inherent desire to force that “you have to vote for us” choice on disgruntled Democratic factions even though they could just solve the disagreement. If they start acknowledging the left side of the party as being worth listening to, even if doing so is trivially easy, then it sets a bad precedent.
People have to hope Harris willing to change her mind after praising Dick Cheney and ass kissing Israel every time she is near a mic. I don’t see that happening at all.
The difference is that even if Harris continues the policies of the Biden administration, the American citizens should feel safe enough to protest those policies and maybe something will change?
Under a trump administration the idea of people being able to protest safely is less certain.
Protesting is becoming more criminalized under this admin. We just witnessed state violence against college students and protesters are getting hit with Rico charges. I wouldn’t say they are more safe protesting under either admin.
The fact that so many people refuse to recognize the chilling effect and implicit threat of AIPAC in the context of the election vis a vis “what you say about supporting Israel” continues to baffle me. Like, if any candidate says anything sharply critical of Israel, they’ll take their dump truck of money and just give it to the other candidate. That’s the game. That’s it.
Being reticent/“status quo” about Israel in the context of the campaign is (tragically, but also directly due to Citizens United and effectively uncontrolled political spending) is the best play here, and I hope her actual policy is materially different from the status quo. But I recognize she simply can’t say that unless she wants to score a campaign finance own-goal on herself.
The fact that so many people refuse to recognize the chilling effect and implicit threat of AIPAC in the context of the election vis a vis “what you say about supporting Israel” continues to baffle me.
Oh, we’re not. We see that the centrist wing of the party is fucking delighted to support genocide in exchange for AIPAC shoveling money at centrist challengers to progressive incumbents.
“We understand that some Muslim voters, any voter, may feel a moral dilemma voting for [Harris]. I do. My family does,” said Wa’el Alzayat, the CEO of Emgage Action. “But a vote for a third-party candidate is the road to victory for Donald Trump.”
Imagine instead of spending money and effort to create a “Arab Americans for Harris-Walz” propaganda group, that they listened to their voters and made it policy to stop supporting genocide.
They’re about to bomb iran on behalf of Israel so this will need to be some pitch.
Some Sunni may even cheer Iran getting bombed. Sunnis and shiites really hate each others guts.
All Sunnis and all Shiites hate each other? Even unto death?
Well then they must be truely barbaric and therefore deserving of the decades of avarice inspired wrath meted out upon them by successive US governments and their proxy settler colony.
Without excusing western societies, at all, it’s a fact that many Muslim, not all, countries that use the Sharia as a basic legal framework, in literal interpretations, are fucking barbaric. So yes. And let me repeat, not excusing western societies. One thing doesn’t excuse the other.
Some speakers on Thursday’s call with Walz made it clear that their support for Harris comes with reservations, with one prominent Muslim Democrat saying voting for her was the “least bad thing.”
Surely there will be no negative effect on turnout from forcing people into picking the “least bad” option. Very safe and sensible strategy.
Every election is the least bad option every time. Anyone who thinks different lives in a fantasy world. Real life always disappoints.
This is genocide, not just healthcare policy or something
“Vote for us or we go into the shooting gallery with you.”
Great sell Tim.
Also Tim: the expansion of Israel is a fundamental necessity
