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    Yeah I’m not buying a game so the 13 year old mouth breathers can yell racist misogyny at me because I don’t make the game the fulcrum of my existence.

    Give me a Metroid where it’s me, alone, vs a hostile world, and my thoughts.

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    The only thing that I enjoy more than single player RPGs are co-op RPGs, to this day my favorite gaming experience is playing through the entirety of Tales of Graces f in co-op with my friend, and it’s a shame most of these games don’t even have a couch co-op option, much less an online mode, at least Larian does it with their games.

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    My appetite for PvP dropped off precipitously after college. I just don’t have the time to dedicate to getting good at any game, and every online multiplayer game I’ve ever played is toxic if you aren’t at least decent. I have no interest in a sixteen year old cursing me out because I don’t have the map memorized.

    Single player generally also brings in much more flexibility, especially when it comes to things like mods. With my limited free time, if I’m enjoying a game except for thing x, I prefer the ability to remove or diminish that thing x. Also, you have the ability to pause to change laundry loads or whatever.

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    I enjoy pvp games that I’m talented at. If I’m not good at something I tend to get down when I keep losing. Pvp is just really hard and bottles that feeling of helplessness.

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      I used to have the time to be good at PvP games. I used to have the reflexes too. Then I got older and PvP games left me behind, so I left them behind. Turning 40 this year

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    I don’t play multiplayer because I don’t want to be cussed out by a 6 year old.

    I play games to have fun. I’m not trying to prove anything to anyone.

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    In another news a month ago, it said, young gamers do no longer seek confrontation as much and therefore play less PvP games.

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      This one is very specific about teenagers, kids must be more common on roblox and fortnite experiences that aren’t as sweaty as the battle royale.

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    For me it’s really a matter of mood and if my friends are available for something co-op.

    I do have one PvP pleasure though and that’s Street Fighter. I can’t stand anything team based, but give me two characters on screen 1v1 and I’m all over it.

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      Yea, I think I would probably say I prefer single player or co-op games over multiplayer.

      But I am pretty sure that I put more time into street fighter 6 last year than every other game combined. I do really enjoy my fighting games… But I can’t really stand to play any other competitive multiplayer genre.

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        For me I think Street Fighter (and most other fighting games) avoid all the most frustrating parts of PvP.

        No teammates to worry about. Whether they’re bad players that need to be carried, or trolls, or just some raging screecher. They’re annoying more often than not in team based games, and even when they’re not usually they’re just… non-entities quietly playing the game. There’s little to no social engagement in modern team based multiplayer, so what’s the point?
        Some people might find the lack of a team frustrating as that means there’s no one else to vent at or assign blame for a loss to other than yourself, but those people can piss off and keep playing their MOBAs. They’re just making the experience worse and I’m glad to have something keeping them away.

        Very well balanced. While I’m sure there are other balanced fighting games out there this is more specific to SF6. Capcom has done an incredible job balancing the cast. People like to talk about who’s top tier and complain about matchups they don’t like, but looking at the overall win rates online you can see that the best v worst character is only a 3% spread. Some individual character matchups are pretty wildly skewed, but I think that’s fine.

        Both players have perfect knowledge. This is a big one, imo. Nothing is hidden from either player. You know where the other person is at all times, exactly how much health you both have, and exactly what resources. Losing to something you were not aware of is one of the worst feelings in any game, and most fighting games avoid it entirely.

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    Coincidentally, teenagers are also the reason most gamers prefer single-player games.

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      I dont mind teenagers, it is the absurd toxic masculinity culture I hate, which isnt really a teenager specific thing in my experience.

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        I mean, you’re more or less correct although toxic masculinity feels pretty immature, and certainly more common with teenage boys. Given the number of muscle cars nearly running me off the road these days, I certainly agree they’re not all teenagers, though!

        Gotta wonder if that guy who just said he slept with your mom on COD was really 30+ year old “alpha male” lol

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      This is a fact.

      When I was late teens I played vanilla wow, but after adapting to adulthood, the idea of playing with or even talking to people decades younger than I am (with maturity to match age) has absolutely no appeal. I really want to play a lot of the multiplayer games out there, but don’t want to play with a bunch of asshole kids with nothing better to do than be assholes.

      Face to face, maybe, because there’s a lot more context and social boundaries and stuff, but honestly I don’t even understand a lot of what they are trying to communicate at this point, and I honestly usually don’t care, so it’s not an appealing proposition at this point. That’s the full whole reason I don’t play ttrpgs anymore; can’t find an adult group and can’t stand to be around a group of 14yo boys.

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        It’s a shame, too. I don’t really mind playing with other people, usually PvE, but when you’re just so much more mature than they are the whole dynamic can be grating. PvP though? I’m not sure what’s worse, the shit talkers or the teammate griefers who throw a game for some silly reason.

        That said, I met my wife in an MMO and you very much can make genuine connections with strangers on the internet. Just… You know, if you’re hitting 40 and they’re 14, the FBI might want to have a word with you.

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          That genuinely sounds like a good middle point, unfortunately it isn’t actionable for me as I haven’t any friends with whom to play. My humans have drastically different genre interests than I do, assuming they even game.

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            As someone who doesn’t play with friends either:

            If the games don’t need communication to be good, play em anyway. Go for solo performance and if the team wants to whinge then it’s their fault for being mutable. I give everyone a chance, mute them if they spam or go squeaker, it’s honestly not that common to be an issue these days even in games like COD

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    I only enjoy multi-player with my wife. Our Valheim settlement and world progression is something beautiful to behold. Even vanilla WoW for me is solo or bust. I just don’t like people or Discord culture.

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    Pvp games are more likely to leave me feeling angry after a session compared to single player and coop games where I’m more often ending the session happy.

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    I prefer co-op but the times I can play don’t always line up with the times my friends can play.

    My favorite games are things like Destiny, Minecraft, Helldivers, and Terraria, when I have friends to play with.

    When playing alone, live service games can be ok, and competitive PvP is about the worst experience out there.

    Single player games are often a much better experience than either of those.

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      I love coop games and so many games seem like they’re perfectly suited for it, but don’t support it. A prime example is the city builder genre. There’s a multiplayer mod for Cities: Skylines but it isn’t perfect. On a bright note, the multiplayer mod for Rimworld is virtually flawless.

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          Death stranding where people built structures for other people in the world is one.

          Minecraft servers where you gather resources for your friend and put a sign up with a message.

          Anything where you can interact with each other but don’t have to be logged in at the same time.

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          SimCity’s cooperative structure building - anything where the group has to earn “points”. PvP asynchronous mechanics are essentially anything where a player can be attacked while offline.

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            Thanks for the explanation. I’ve only played one game like that, but it is super fun; Neptune’s Pride. It’s free and web based, id highly recommend it.

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      I feel nothing when playing singleplayer games. It just gives me the feeling of wasting my time. The exception would be platformers or something challenging like cuphead.

      I much prefer the grind of getting better at games that have a great feel to them. Like Quake, smash melee, cs or dota. It feels like i can keep improving infinitely

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        Hey man as long as you have fun.

        To me single player is having fun on my own terms at my own pace. There’s nobody to randomly decide the course of the game and no egos I have satisfy to not leave a match.

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        To me, story-driven games are a bit like reading a book, but with the ability to make decisions.

        I also quite enjoy games like Celeste where the sheer challenge is the main appeal.

        I enjoy the mechanics of games like Smash or League of Legends, but playing online is always so awful. It always feels like I’m either way better than the other team, or the other team is way better than me. And if there’s any sort of communication (e.g. chat in League) it gets so toxic. But I don’t want to turn chat off because occasionally people actually use it to productively share information.

        But even in Smash Bros, where there is no chat and Nintendo turned off emotes in an attempt to reduce toxicity, people still find ways to be toxic.

        I’d play against people IRL, but League requires 12 people and in Smash Bros I’m at the uncomfortable place where none of my friends want to play against me because I’m too good, but I’m not good enough to go play in tournaments.

        While I still feel like I want to be good at these games, I’ve been trying to stop lately because they just make me feel awful.

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    They’re out there. I played new world for the better part of two years all in mature, grown up clans. I think at one point we did have a 17ish year old that we all kind of ragged on but he was a good kid who eventually left for a more PVP focused guild. Recently I’ve been playing pax dei and the average age in our guild has got to be 50ish. We started out with a group of like 5-6 late 20’s-mid 30s folks but a long the way we ended up picking up around 15ish folks mostly 40-75ish? Retired gamers are here and if you need people to gather resources, craft and just chill while you roam the world dungeoning, I can’t recommend a better bunch.

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      I represent that remark. My son has a bunch of 30ish buddies playing enshrouded. Me and another late 50s retired guy are totally fine crafting and building and mining while they go out to pla :) Thats exactly how we phrase it “wheres the kids?, oh out in the woods playing”.