But seriously. The gospels were recorded as oral tradition. Maybe from geriatric as hell disciples, but more likely who ever they told stories to. Most the disciples died around the same time Mark was written (70 C.E.)
If you accept that jesus wasn’t made up out of whole cloth, and that’s reasonable, then the details like who the disciples were and came from are probably reliable. They would have been still in living memory. (Or alive, at least to tell the author of Mark.)
Same for things like who lent Jesus a tomb to rot in, S well as numerous other examples. So, if you want to point to all the Things People Wrote About Him, you’re going to have to take all the parts where rich people gave him places to sleep, and food and hospitality, and generally hung out with him; along with all the “yup money bad.”
As written, he clearly didn’t have a problem with wealth when it was shared with him.
It really doesn’t make a difference if you are or aren’t and i presumed you were an atheist the whole time.
No one disputes the first part. However, you seem to have convinced yourself it proves your second part which it doesn’t.
So, even after having to point out that you toon completely completely the wrong point over the business owners part, you double down, despite STILL literally giving yet more examples of what were all meant to be details specifically about people giving up their wealth for God.
Somehow you’ve literally taken away the exact opposite point from the one being made every single time and you’re arguing my point, against yourself, better than I ever could.
Bro, I’m an atheist.
I don’t subscribe to anything to do with it.
But seriously. The gospels were recorded as oral tradition. Maybe from geriatric as hell disciples, but more likely who ever they told stories to. Most the disciples died around the same time Mark was written (70 C.E.)
If you accept that jesus wasn’t made up out of whole cloth, and that’s reasonable, then the details like who the disciples were and came from are probably reliable. They would have been still in living memory. (Or alive, at least to tell the author of Mark.)
Same for things like who lent Jesus a tomb to rot in, S well as numerous other examples. So, if you want to point to all the Things People Wrote About Him, you’re going to have to take all the parts where rich people gave him places to sleep, and food and hospitality, and generally hung out with him; along with all the “yup money bad.”
As written, he clearly didn’t have a problem with wealth when it was shared with him.
It really doesn’t make a difference if you are or aren’t and i presumed you were an atheist the whole time.
No one disputes the first part. However, you seem to have convinced yourself it proves your second part which it doesn’t.
So, even after having to point out that you toon completely completely the wrong point over the business owners part, you double down, despite STILL literally giving yet more examples of what were all meant to be details specifically about people giving up their wealth for God.
Somehow you’ve literally taken away the exact opposite point from the one being made every single time and you’re arguing my point, against yourself, better than I ever could.