• creamy@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Dude, stop posting no-name propaganda sites like they are a source.

    Fact is Hezbollah has been around since the 80s. They started as a Shia islamist militia that committed numerous atrocities during Lebanons Civil War. IT then entrenched itself in souther Lebanon and has been engaging in violence against all manner of groups since then. Including civilians. They’ve been rocketing residential Israeli neighborhoods for a year

    We know what they are and what they believe, we know what they do, and we know why they do it. Nasrallahs lies a worth nothibg, we know what he was. Don’t play dumb. A “single state” is code for an Islamic theocracy. They use the language of westerner human rights ideology to fool people like you, and it evidently works

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      2 months ago

      Which link do you consider propaganda? The reddit post where OP maps out all the attacks extensively and with sources? Or the opinion piece that explains Nasrallah’s life?

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        2 months ago

        I’m not going to bore everyone reading this and try to teach you media literacy.

        It’s a complex, multifaceted, situation. What is not complex or multifaceted is Hezbollahs actions. They just straight up shoot rockets at innocent people. Cmon, man. Nobody benefits from you trying to convince me, yourself, or anybody reading this that they’re a bunch of secular progressive angels. They’re not. Like it’s not an opinion.

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          2 months ago

          I literally just gave you a source explaining why Hezbollah doesn’t just shoot rockets at innocent people like you said. If you want to explain to me why the source is wrong, then go right ahead. Every accusation and generalization you made, I was able to disprove with a few minutes of googling. You can’t expect me to believe everything you say without even trying to back it up.

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            2 months ago

            In “a few minutes of googling” I could find anything, that really doesn’t mean anything. Needless to say reputable information does exist, and you are currently not posting it.

            Again, since the 80s. Trying to claim Hezbollah are anything but violent jihadists is friggin laughable.

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              Like I said before, I’ve given you my reasons on why I think the way I do. You have not returned the same courtesy to me. All you’ve done is make baseless claims and allegations without actually telling me where they come from. And when I say “Hey, I think you’re wrong and here’s why” you don’t even bother with looking at it. I don’t expect you to go over it all, but at least take a look. You just dismiss it as propaganda with little to no actual effort to understand what I’m trying to say. I’ve literally given you documented actions and events to support what I’m saying and disprove what you say. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. Your entire argument is simply you saying “They’re evil, trust me bro”. I think I’ll trust what I see and read over what you say, thank you very much.

              Edit: I also want to point out that at no point did you seem interested in even acknowledging the evil that Israel has been doing in both Gaza and Lebanon. You just seem all too eager to justify their atrocious actions by saying “Yeah, but Hezbollah bad”. If I had to label one group as bad in this conflict, it would be Israel.

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                2 months ago

                That’s nice. You posted bullshit, I called it bullshit. I’m sure on your super deep and intricate google search you encountered proof of everything I said. Go look again.

                Your opinions on Israel don’t matter. Hezbollah are, again, violent jihadists. Fuck them. They want to kill me. Why would I kiss their ass like you do?

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                  2 months ago

                  Calling it bullshit without explaining why it’s bullshit doesn’t automatically make it bullshit. This shouldn’t be a difficult thing for you to understand or wrap your head around.

                  Why would Hezbollah want to kill you?

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                    2 months ago

                    But I thought you had google, the fountain of truth?

                    Hezbollah are violent jihadists. They want to kill most people. Again, not a matter of debate. Get over it.