Final (?) Debate thread before the election in 35 days.
Debate begins at 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific and runs 90 minutes.
Vice Presidential debates are always tricky since nobody has voted for Vice President in living memory.
Expect Vance to attack Walz on his military service.
Expect Walz to attack Vance on the whole “immigrants eating cats and dogs” thing.
Expect Vance to attack Walz on being an assistant coach, at best.
Expect Walz to roll out “Weird!” at least once.
CBS has announced the burden of fact checking will be on the candidates themselves.
https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10
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Edit Impressive how a debate can go when one participant doesn’t have mental health issues! Thanks for coming everybody!
Ha, fuck you. My life was destroyed by disability, and the only drug that was helping me went from $250 a month to $3000 a month between 2015 to 2017. Everything got worse, to the point I can’t even afford to live.
This especially pisses me off.
Fuck you Vance and fuck everything you just said. It’s all lies.
Walz: “Well I don’t run Facebook and Trump lost.”
“Under Kamala Harris’ leadership.”
I wish Walz would say that JOE BIDEN IS THE FUCKING PRESIDENT.
I will say that I worry about Vance as a candidate when he’s no longer directly tied to Trump and his madness. He’s the face of non-truth leading to fascism.
“Did he lose the 2020 election?”
“OH YEAH?!?! Well did Kamala Harris censor people?”
vance won’t answer if trump lost the 2020 election. oh its the lauph into cry now. man he is so weasily.
It’s crazy how… like. Normal? This debate is. I mean they obviously disagree on stuff, but there’s at least a baseline of respect here so far.
“Should we force catholic hospitals to do abortions?”
No. Because there shouldn’t be catholic hospitals.
“She hasn’t accomplished what she set out to do in three years” is kind of weird for the running mate of the guy who accomplished fuck all in terms of his campaign promises for four.
Vance after the Debate
Vance lies like he breathes, but he isn’t mentally addled like Trump. He’s a threat. A long term threat.
Listening to these idiotic “uncommitted voters” in the focus group are the absolute worse. It’s a collection of people that love the attention of being an indecisive moron.
Attacking Walz on his military record while Vance had a mostly clerical job, never saw combat, was of a lower rank and was in the military for 4 years compared to 24 years? Bold move…
Prediction: Vance will try the “Stolen Valor” line and get owned.
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/08/nx-s1-5068668/vance-walz-stolen-valor-military-record
To Vance’s credit, he’s doing a monumental amount of damage control and sanewashing for Donald Trump and is doing a decent job at it. Yes Vance is lying through his teeth with each answer but he is markedly better at keeping his cool compared to the former Narcissist-in-Chief against VP Harris. It’s a position Walz wouldn’t envy. So overall I think this is within the best range of events Vance could expect.
They both did well at acknowledging each other and keeping this like a somewhat normal debate, can you imagine. That said, if any viewer can hold a thought without focusing solely on whatever deflection each candidate is doing, Walz is giving better answers, and Vance is putting way more false equivalencies in.
Walz is doing very well with his answers, he’s not as calculated and rehearsed as Harris, and you know having a heart makes you mess up more than the recently changed telephone options menu, but he is doing a fantastically better job at connecting with voters than Vance did. Walz’s jabs are quick and easily missed (“Wharton”) but even with apolitical people, if they understand Walz’s language then they’ll get when he is jabbing at Vance.
Obviously I was hoping Vance would fold up into a chair and was disappointed for that to not happen. More than that though is that I’m crossing my fingers the news cycle doesn’t begin pretending it’s a normal election cycle just because the VP candidates could actually look each other in the eye for a night. Idk, give it 48hours and Trump will be starved enough of attention to break the spell and make people glare at him again in disgust.
Walz drove it home on the threat to democracy, and Vance had nothing to respond.