Cool, he vetoed one thing that I agree should have been vetoed.
People are not getting into speeding accidents because they don’t know they are speeding. This would solve nothing, but would be a distraction any time it triggers off an incorrectly indexed speed limit.
Milton Keynes, in the UK, seems to have nailed this. It’s effectively a grid of roundabouts. When the roads are empty, you can race along at 60mph (legally). As soon as it starts to build, the road naturally slows to 40, then 30mph. No cameras etc needed.
It also has the red ways. You can walk most places, without having to cross a major road. It uses underpasses for pedestrians and bikes etc.
That last part is where you lost us. Unless we can legally murder someone with our SUV and call it an accident, we Americans won’t have it because it’s for commies.
One road I drive on frequently is posted 25, but Google Maps thinks it’s 55, which is a silly speed for that road with many turnouts. Meanwhile, the next road over, is also 25 and Google sees that one correctly, but going 55 on that road is nearly natural, with nothing but the road and usually green traffic lights every quarter mile.
Cars in the Middle East had these like 20-30 years ago (source:me. I was there) and it was basically a constant buzzer that started when you went faster than like 88kph. It did absolutely nothing to deter speeding. Drivers just ignored it. What they did do was leave charred vehicle wreckage on the side of the roads and highways as reminders for people to slow down. That was pretty wild to see.
Too many dumb motherfuckers would slow down on the highway to 30 mph to rubberneck while driving and fuck up the traffic pattern for everyone behind them
The non-stop chimes and beeps and spoken alerts in cars in South Korea is absolutely maddening. With these constant distractions, there’s absolutely no way this makes driving safer.
Imagine passing a speed limit sign that warns of an upcoming speed bump. It will immediately start loud beeping because you’re now speeding as you roll out, while simultaneously speaking out loud what the new speed limit is, while simultaneously also saying there’s a speed bump, all while your music and navigation play as well.
I’m going to guess the Middle East has fewer roads per capita and they are less complicated in their speed limits than the US which are all over the place even within the same state.
Your point about ignoring them is what I expected.
I wish tesla’s and bmw’s came with lane assist so that its harder to change lanes without a turn signal. also all cars should come with lights always on, so many cars in the early morning or dusk driving around with their lights off its hard to notice them
Teslas absolutely come with lane assist. Annoyingly so in some cases to be honest, it freaks out about a little double dip around my house probably 50% of the time. There’s not even a turn, just a couple vertical bumps in a row.
Also, most modern vehicles I see have always on daytime running lights you have to specifically turn off.
hmm I see a ton of teslas merging without signals so I dont know if they fight the lane assist or disable it maybe. and usually day time running lights dont light up the rear lights, it would be great if they did both
I feel like a system that noticeably increases the resistance of the gas pedal right around the current speed limit might be a good idea. It would make speeding require more intention on the part of the driver.
Cool, he vetoed one thing that I agree should have been vetoed.
People are not getting into speeding accidents because they don’t know they are speeding. This would solve nothing, but would be a distraction any time it triggers off an incorrectly indexed speed limit.
Yup. My understanding is that the roads have a much higher effect on driving. Design roads for slow traffic and you will get slow traffic.
Milton Keynes, in the UK, seems to have nailed this. It’s effectively a grid of roundabouts. When the roads are empty, you can race along at 60mph (legally). As soon as it starts to build, the road naturally slows to 40, then 30mph. No cameras etc needed.
It also has the red ways. You can walk most places, without having to cross a major road. It uses underpasses for pedestrians and bikes etc.
That last part is where you lost us. Unless we can legally murder someone with our SUV and call it an accident, we Americans won’t have it because it’s for commies.
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Every speed limit on Google maps is wrong in my area so yeah this bill is a horrible idea
My Volvo displays speed limits and I can have it beep if I go over, done by camera if I’m not mistaken, very rarely wrong.
I had a car that did that as well, but it’s highly reliant on well maintained signs, so it was wrong probably 30% of the time for me
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One road I drive on frequently is posted 25, but Google Maps thinks it’s 55, which is a silly speed for that road with many turnouts. Meanwhile, the next road over, is also 25 and Google sees that one correctly, but going 55 on that road is nearly natural, with nothing but the road and usually green traffic lights every quarter mile.
While Google Maps may be incorrect, government data should be nearly perfect.
Also, you know you can suggest fixes in Google Maps, right?
How do I do this from the app? I’ve had trouble finding it before.
On Android, long-press -> Report a Problem
I wish I could share your faith in my local government
I can suggest fixes, but realistically I’m never going to remember by the time I get home. Skill issue on my part, but such is life.
Cars in the Middle East had these like 20-30 years ago (source:me. I was there) and it was basically a constant buzzer that started when you went faster than like 88kph. It did absolutely nothing to deter speeding. Drivers just ignored it. What they did do was leave charred vehicle wreckage on the side of the roads and highways as reminders for people to slow down. That was pretty wild to see.
Can’t happen in the United States.
Too many dumb motherfuckers would slow down on the highway to 30 mph to rubberneck while driving and fuck up the traffic pattern for everyone behind them
The non-stop chimes and beeps and spoken alerts in cars in South Korea is absolutely maddening. With these constant distractions, there’s absolutely no way this makes driving safer.
Imagine passing a speed limit sign that warns of an upcoming speed bump. It will immediately start loud beeping because you’re now speeding as you roll out, while simultaneously speaking out loud what the new speed limit is, while simultaneously also saying there’s a speed bump, all while your music and navigation play as well.
Thank goodness this was vetoed.
I’m going to guess the Middle East has fewer roads per capita and they are less complicated in their speed limits than the US which are all over the place even within the same state.
Your point about ignoring them is what I expected.
I assume the idea is to be like the seatbelt beeps: they prevent the unwanted behavior by being too annoying to ignore for more than a few seconds.
I would legit rip out anything that did this. I wouldn’t care how integrated it was into the car.
Wouldn’t bother someone who’s deaf and blind. They’d just continue driving the wrong way down the highway, blissfully unaware.
“You’re going the wrong way!”
“He says we’re going the wrong way… Oh, he’s drunk. How would he know where we’re going?”
I wish tesla’s and bmw’s came with lane assist so that its harder to change lanes without a turn signal. also all cars should come with lights always on, so many cars in the early morning or dusk driving around with their lights off its hard to notice them
Teslas absolutely come with lane assist. Annoyingly so in some cases to be honest, it freaks out about a little double dip around my house probably 50% of the time. There’s not even a turn, just a couple vertical bumps in a row.
Also, most modern vehicles I see have always on daytime running lights you have to specifically turn off.
hmm I see a ton of teslas merging without signals so I dont know if they fight the lane assist or disable it maybe. and usually day time running lights dont light up the rear lights, it would be great if they did both
I feel like a system that noticeably increases the resistance of the gas pedal right around the current speed limit might be a good idea. It would make speeding require more intention on the part of the driver.
Tell me you don’t drive without telling me you don’t drive.