Pretty sure he’s doing this simply because he doesn’t like how many people have blocked him personally
Taylor Swift blocked him and he can’t have that
He’s grumpy that she won’t see any additional jokes he makes about impregnating her
JUST. LEAVE. TWITTER.
I’ve practically been groveling begging my girlfriend to switch.
Its not that bad just ignore the ads
Yeah I don’t go in replies because it’s always bots
There’s still some things on there
She didn’t really catch onto mastodon, discoverability is the problem imo. May try getting her onto bluesky even though it wouldn’t be my pick. Some people just like whatever they currently have more than change - which maybe not being able to block like EVERY OTHER media platform may be a big enough change.
Basically nothing I follow is on anything else because they need the numbers. The few people that are just copy their twitter posts and never actually engage.
Problem is people have gotten used to centralized platforms
A lot of people have professional reasons to be on Twitter. If you’re trying to promote a business you need to be where the people are and none of the alternatives have anywhere near Twitter’s size.
But …the porn…
By all means, keep posting and perusing porn on the platform, when that and Elon will be all that’s left on Twitter, it’ll be ok.
I use to keep in contact with my metal homies. That’s about it.
Using a corporate controlled advertising platform sounds like the least metal thing you can do.
If you ever feel like trying Mastodon, https://metalhead.club is the instance you’re looking for
It’s a win for humanity if it causes more people to leave and stop thinking it’s a public forum.
It IS a public forum though. The whole point of it, even dating back to it’s inception, was very very public conversation. It was in stark contrast to facebook, which claimed to be privacy driven. As opposed to the mostly public myspace, and the completely public twitter.
Since Musk took it, it’s more like an arena where the loudest and dumbest have the microphones. It is neither a haven for free speech nor a forum where legitimate discourse takes place. It has become the trash pit of the internet.
That’s not what was said though. I was saying that it was a PUBLIC forum. I’m not stating WHAT is being said. Merely that it’s being said in a public way.
I don’t think I would agree that just because something is public that it’s a public forum. I feel like the public has to own it as well. I looked it up and maybe it’s because I predate social media by rather a lot, but I think of it in the classical sense:
Public forums are typically categorized into three types:
- Traditional Public Forums: Long-established spaces like parks or sidewalks, where people have historically exercised their rights to free speech and assembly.
- Designated Public Forums: Areas that the government intentionally opens up for public expression, such as town halls or school meeting rooms.
- Limited Public Forums: Spaces opened for specific types of discussions or activities but with certain restrictions on the subject matter or participants.
The important factor being public ownership of the forum. I will concede that it has colloquially come to include public social media, but I think it’s important to distinguish that it’s not really the same thing at all as has been discussed through most of our history.
Food for thought. I just think calling them public forums attaches too much importance to a profit seeking endeavor.
Exactly. You were much more articulate than I, with my comparison, but it was effectively the point I was trying to make — it’s not a public forum at all and it’s now overrun by a cesspool of nonsensical garbage.
City council meetings are public meetings. But if you go in there and start swearing your head off and using the N-word you will be removed because you are distupting the ability of rational people to have a discussion.
Twitter has decided to let these freaks scream their heads off. This disrupting its ability to be used as a public forum. It is no longer a public forum. It’s just 4Chan now. Sane people wanting to have discussions don’t use 4Chan.
Reminder: if you still have an account with that fucko’s service-
You support everthing he does.
I’ve kept my account because it’s a sought after username. Deleting it would allow some grifter to take it over. It also predates both Elmo’s and the original Twitter accounts.
I’ve not posted anything under it since the third party apps were blocked.
I’m keeping it just long enough to harass his ass. I’ll be all over him like Joe Biden on an ice cream cone, or Elon Musk on Trumps dick.
I promise you: you’re not harassing him. You ARE however, supporting him by having an account.
Reminder: if you have american citizenship, all support everything those fucko’s do
People aren’t born on Twitter.
Reminder: if you purchase gas from BP, you support anything they’ve ever done.
Reminder: if you purchase a smart phone, you support child labor.
I don’t believe I’m entertaining this ridiculous comparison, but….
We NEED gasoline. We NEED telecommunications. You don’t NEED to tweet dumb shit about your breakfast or keep up with sports scores.
You’re here to defend X, therefore you’re defending Elon. That’s how it works. Don’t like it, maybe don’t speak up for him next time.
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you think people don’t need smartphones? do you not have a job?
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I’m so sorry that People hurt you that much on Lemmy. Maybe this place is a bit too “rough” for you but you need to learn that the Internet is no safe space for you. If you feel so triggered maybe you should take longer breaks between using it and see how much you can actually stomach it at once. It’s totally okay. No one will judge you, some people can deal better with the “stress” the Internet brings us and some people need to take breaks.
If you ever need more help: https://mentalhealthhotline.org/anxiety-hotline/
Take care of yourself and learn what your Body is teaching you!
k.
You seem pretty obviously upset.
Ah, yes, I’m having a conversation with someone with an opposing viewpoint, so clearly I’m upset. Ya caught me.
Is this some odd debate tactic people use here? Tell people they’re upset in the hope it gets them upset? Is emotional and mental stability that unstable on Lemmy? Never thought I’d pine for the reddit days.
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I never buy gas at BP or Exxon. Ever. Smart phone though? That’s required for my job.
I’m pretty sure both the App Store and the Google Play Store both require social media apps to have a block feature. Will be interesting to see what happens if he goes through with this.
Absolutely nothing. Rules on those stores are only for the little guys
He backed down when Brazil blocked him. If Apple and Google decided to threaten to delist Twitter, he’ll back down.
If the block feature goes away, I guarantee it will come back for - at the very least - the highest tier of paid accounts almost immediately afterwards.
I can’t imagine any of the large corps that still use Xitter for customer communication will be happy not being able to block serial trolls. Or people with legitimate grievances who won’t go away.
the block function will block that account from engaging with, but not block seeing, a public post
Could be worse. I never liked the idea of blocking “hiding” your content from other people to begin with. It makes it too easy to give trolls the confirmation they succeeded in getting under your skin, encouraging them to make another account to continue harassing their victim.
Hopefully when Musk does this it will convince my addicted friends to drop the platform when their stalkers can all suddenly contact them again.
Or maybe it’ll get the EU to ban the platform like Brazil did.
The delete account button is still there.
I’d say “for now”, but at least we’ve got the EU protecting us from that possibility.
The ones who are most vulnerable to this change are the ones who especially should’ve left this platform already. I’m sorry, but they’re not being forced to use it, and everyone should leave it. I don’t have much sympathy or care about wanting to make an alt-right social media platform safer, I want it to crash and burn.
A lot of them are in-denial. I’ve seen them argue that Twitter isn’t a Nazi platform and is used by normal people. Serves them right I guess, they were told it was a problem and they didn’t want to listen.
The best way to cure network effect is with pain and suffering, and eventual forced deprivation (when the service shuts down).
Nice username thats gonna be worth big money some day
Thx I’ll sell you it as an nft
“BuT eVeRyOnE iS oN tWitTeR”
And will continue to be so long as everyone keeps showing Elon there is NOTHING he can do, say, or allow that will get people to leave.
When I comment that Twitter is trash and I’d never use it, the response I often get is ‘it’s actually pretty good after you block all the trolls and bots and corporate accounts and politicians and blue checks’… 🙄
Before the musk acquisition I had something like 8,000 people blocked… mostly the inane shit like “Patriot Christian Dog Mom” or incredible douchebags like “dc_draino”.
Remember to contact your political representative and express your concerns on any public organization account having an account on twitter. Also contact any journali of a media you use to read/watch and express the same concern.
Once politics and journalists get out of twitter is game over.
I thought Twitter was once forced but a court to enable blocking for all users against all users. Isn’t this why we are able to block advertisers?
i seem to remember something similar. and blocking advertisers seems like it should be common law but i guess chrome killing adblockers takes predesence.
As much as I despise Musk and Twitter and hope that both die a painful death, what is actually proposed here is honestly a change for the better: It’s not about preventing people from blocking users, it’s about blocked users being able to see public posts, which they could also see by just logging out. This is being honest about what a block does and avoids giving people a wrong sense of privacy that they simply don’t have on the platform. From what I’ve heard there is a possibility to post for followers-only which in combination with requiring approval to follow and that isn’t going away here either…
Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users, so just logging out doesn’t help, you have to log into a different account. This additional fraction reduces the amount of harassment a lot. Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price, especially when an info box could achieve the same without making harassment easier.
Twitter massively reduced visibility for logged-out users,
I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.
Not sure that being “more honest” is worth the price
The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas. It’s about being clear to people what they can and cannot expect. Anything else is ACTUALLY dangerous.
I know, but it still didn’t fully remove it.
Sure, but it doesn’t have to be fully removed to have an effect.
The thing is that there really is no price, nor was there ever one. Your suggestion that you think there is demonstrates that the way blocking worked gave people dangerously wrong ideas.
Sorry, but you don’t get to redefine how humans work. There is a price, because friction reduces the likelihood of people following through. Removing that friction increases the likelihood of people following through. You might not want to believe this to be the case, but please read studies on the topic - it’s just how humans work. You don’t get to dismiss negative effects because you don’t believe in them.
The argument here is literally about stalkers. Not about random uninterested people that don’t care.
No, it’s not just about stalkers, it’s about harassment in general. But even if it were, even stalkers are still people and don’t work fundamentally different.
Feel free to show any research proving me wrong, but unless you find any, the reasonable position is “humans work the same on this topic as on others”.
Wearing a seatbelt in a moving vehicle does not magically prevent all deaths upon an accident. Do you recommend we should stop wearing seatbelts?
If there are measures in place that reduce the danger of something happening, it’s not wise to remove them just because they’re not 100% effective.
I’m not advocating against a seatbelt, I’m advocating against not wearing it, “because I am confident that I can hold on to something in case of a collision” or similar stupid reasons. Expecting that blocking does anything to hide public posts that you can simply open in another browser (or in the same browser in private browsing mode) is not a seatbelt, it is the equivalent of a slightly stronger handle on top of the car window that is being advertized as a feature to protect you in case of an accident.
This change first and foremost makes it clear that that handle does nothing meaningful and that you should wear an actual seatbelt (follower-only posts, ideally with restricted followers) instead, if you are worried about a collision. Twitter is a public forum. You can’t tell people to leave you alone, shout with a megaphone across the marketplace and then be annoyed when they hear you. If you don’t want them to hear you, don’t use a megaphone.
Nah, bullshit. This is 100% Musk’s fragile ego getting upset that people blocked him. He wants to be able to force his and his evil friends’ opinions into the faces of people who don’t want to see it.
Please read again what he changed and then try to figure out why your rationale is clearly not what this is about.
That’s the opposite of what’s happening. In this case, Musk would have blocked you, and you would want to see his posts (for some reason). You could normally see a user who’s blocked your posts by just opening the thread in an incognito tab to view as a logged out user. This just cuts out that step and lets you see the user’s posts without doing that.
People need to get the fuck off twitter.
I have started to actively avoid brands, journalists etc. who still use Twitter as their primary social media presence.
You can always count on this twat to do the dumbest, shittiest thing he can.
I feel Musk is an experiment testing what would happen if you gave an Internet troll of middling intelligence billions of dollars.
