The DRM removal tool to remove DRM from ebooks was taken down from github and will most likely be taken down from gitlab soon as well. The more archives we have the better so im sharing the gitlab in hopes some Datahoarder types will archive it and keep it shared via torrents etc https://gitlab.com/bipinkrish/DeGourou

Heres an article about why it was taken down https://torrentfreak.com/internet-archive-targets-book-drm-removal-tool-with-dmca-takedown-230714/

Edit: does anyone here use https://radicle.xyz/ ? Its a p2p network built on top of git and could be a good way to host it while still being able to contribute to it besides making a .torrent for archiving

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      If you can, please update the readme download section since the releases button and git command still point to the old GitHub

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        Good call. I’ll try and do that but I am easily distracted so may end up disappointing you

        Edit: Should be good now

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          Haha no worries

          And thanks! Although it seems like the releases section is empty and the tags section doesn’t include any binaries

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            I clicked on some of the tags and got to binary downloads but yeah, I’ve never dealt with releases or compiled binaries via git myself so I have no idea how to make that better at this point Don't cry don't cry don't cry

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        It seems to be FLOSS without a company trying to sell premium features behind it.

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            I wouldn’t say that. It has been around for a while. Also, the Linux kernel itself is like that, there is no one selling Linux premium.

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              Do you even know anything about Linux? It’s a multi billion dollar industry! Small projects which don’t have financial support will eventually stagnate and then die. It’s inevitable, because food is not free.

              Every decent open source project should have a robust monetisation scheme.

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                Yeah man, Debian has no future. Food ain’t free, someone get them a robust monetisation scheme, a corporate sponsor! Otherwise they’ll stagnate. No idea how they managed to hold on for 30 years without any of that, the poor fellows. /s

                I actually wrote two long ass responses to this but lemmy bugs caused both of them to be deleted before I could hit send. Good thing, actually, because I can summarize them in a paragraph. EDIT: well nvm, I ended up typing an equally long one all over again…

                Lichess, Stockfish, Tachiyomi, and in the world of Linux, Debian; all these are proudly open-source, proudly non-commercial, going nowhere any time soon, and no corporate daddy. To commercialize itself or seek a profit motive would be completely against lichess’ purpose, and it’s the darling of the chess community - not likely to disappear one fine day, is it now?

                Sure, open-source projects can monetize and there’s nothing wrong with that - that’s down to the ethos of each individual project. But for so many of these projects, doing exactly what you’re suggesting would be completely antithetical to their culture and ethos, even their purpose of existing!

                I’m just so tired of this “only corporations and self-interested motives will get us anywhere” attitude. It’s so fundamentally blind, so disrespectful to the ingenuity of the human spirit and its desire to strive for the common good. The fact is, many strong and robust projects which have contributed to the good of humankind and are more than just “decent” exist, for no other reason than someone simply wanting to write something cool, or make the world a better place. And they will continue on for a long time, for those same reasons.

                I did not expect to read some nonsense that sounds like it came out of a 90’s era Microsoft executive’s mouth (complete with “food is not free”, my god) on lemmy. I expected to read it even less on the piracy community. Steve Ballmer, is that you?

                I just finished reading a manga that was translated by random people from a certain anonymous cloverleaf website, for no other reason than they wanted to - not for money, not even to have their names attached to the damn thing, because they’re identified only as “anon”.

                The view of the world put forth in this comment denies that what I just experienced is even possible, sticks its fingers in its ears and tries its best to ignore some of humanity’s best work (because acknowledging it would be fatal to the central hypothesis). All to insist that selfishness is the best way forward and that we need the powerful and mighty, the vagaries of money, to give us lemmings purpose in life. It is just such a profoundly sad, empty way of looking at life, I genuinely don’t know what to say…

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                  I totally agree with this. And I think it actually shows a lot about people in general, and their attitude to life.

                  I totally understand how can someone arrive at a conclusion that unless you can monetize or fund something, it will eventually get nowhere. But that also says a lot about the person saying that, and unfortunately is pretty common - that just a mere though of doing something for free, or for others without any compensation is basically unimaginable, and people like that will never get it.

                  But then you have passionate people doing volunteers for free, or creating entire events for a subculture they love while at a loss or without any kind of compensation for their (large amounts) of time and work. I’m a part of few such projects, mostly as a DJ, and I always find it really weird and surprising when I’m reading though posts or comments related to DJing where hourly rate or how much should they ask for a first gig is such a common topic. It never crossed my mind, and the communities I’m helping with are all run by volunteers without any compensation, just because they are passionate for their subculture.

                  Because even if you’re working a day job, there is still a lot of free time left for you to offer into something you really care about. It’s understandable that some people don’t want to offer it to others for free (or can’t even imagine how someone would be willing to do that, and probably even think that they are stupid to do so), but I’m really glad that some people are willing to do that - and that’s what the FOSS community is about.

                  It’s always saddening when I hear someone say “You could be making so much money for that! Just monetize it a little…”, but it’s also a really good judge of character. People are people, I guess.

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                  Thanks for taking the effort of writing out what I think.

                  This all-pervasive thinking that if a company employs some people to work on some community FLOSS project then we should all accept that that project would never had gotten anywhere if not for the almighty capital is so stupid. Especially since if it’s the reverse, like look at when Bethesda games only being a thing at this point because of its modders, but the company owns the IP so we should all thank the company.

                  If the community owns the IP and some companies contribute the barest minimum or even just donate to the project, boom, it’s a capitalist commercial success since they “bankrolled” the project.

                  If it’s the other way around, a company puts out some mediocre software (seriously Beth, metro cars as hats?) and the community makes it something magnificent, then again, the achievement is the corporation’s, since they own the IP, right?

                  Most of human achievement was either independent of, predating, or even achieved in the spite of capitalist corporations. They are a tool, not the almighty saviour.

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                  I don’t know what Lichess is, but Debian has plenty of beefy sponsors, including Google and HP. Their monetisation strategy is sponsorship and it works. But they still have monetisation, that’s the thing.

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        Not that I’m aware of. I set it up very very early in my self-hosting journey and have just continued using it ever since

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        As long as you’re self hosting, use whatever works best for you.

        If you want to try out something new, spin up a container and give it a look.

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      Because in circumstances like these and many many other digital stores your are not in fact buying the product, but a license to use the product in a very limited way.

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      btw sometimes drm is used to actually rent out digital books

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          Ebooks from your local library generally do have drm in my experience. Harder to complain since they’re free though.

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          My local library is 25 miles away and only open 4 days a week, plus it’s about 40 miles away from the city where I do all my shopping so it is really out of the way. There is a different library in the city where I run my errands, but they charge a hefty fee for non-residents.

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      Imagine spending years writing a book for the benefit of others, only to have it downloaded, stripped of it’s licensing and given away to others for free and being robbed of compensation for the time you invested.

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        Imagine buying a physical book, reading it, and putting it on the bookshelf in your living room, only to have family members and friends borrow it and read it for free.

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          I imagine your circle of family and friends is a lot smaller then posting it on the web and have people downloading it.

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          Yes because that’s totally the same as xeroxing someone else’s work and handing it out in the street to anyone who wants it, all day every day.

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        As soon as they stop using DRM to force you into a specific ereader ecosystem, you’ll have an argument.

        Until then, I’m going to strip the DRM off of a book I buy on Amazon and read it on my Nook. All other parties involved can fuck all the way off.

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          Those public libraries pay to have those books on their shelves 🤦‍♂️

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              I don’t know, that’s between them and the publisher.

              E: weirdly enough, I happen to have just got a library card a couple days ago so I hopped on Libby and, sure enough, they have a finite number of copies of each book that you can “borrow”. So pretty much the same as renting them from the library without the pfaff.

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              Guess what? They pay for those too.

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        Imagine buying a book only to find out that you can’t read it anymore because the store you bought it from decided to remove it from sale and stop all downloads of it. You can’t restore it from a backup because the DRM prevents that.

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        Imagine going on the piracy Lemmy community and preaching the moral wrongs of copying.

        Seriously though, DRM is a cancer. I usually pirate my books from LibGen, but I buy them on the Kobo store at the same time to support the author. It’s easy to strip DRM from Kobo and they’re better than Amazon, but I would really prefer not to support a store with DRM in the first place.

        Can anyone recommend a DRM-less store? Something akin to GOG for books.

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          Imagine being so entitled that you think you have a right to others’ work for free.

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            Why do people join communities for things they hate just to shit on everyone? Are you addicted to being angry?

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              I didn’t join anything. It’s just at the top of my “all” feed.

              I speak out because the sense of entitlement among people in this community is fucking insane.

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                Piracy is more often then not a symptom of the problem rather than a problem itself.

                For example, game piracy was much more common prior to steam as it was just much much more convenient to pirate at that time.

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        It sounds like you wrote a book for profit then, not for the benefit of others.

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              …so doing work and expecting to be compensated for said work is depressing to you? That is Olympic grade mental gymnastics.

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        this is not how compensation for writers works, generally, and also the whole idea is to break a traditional publishing system that exploits writers in favor of one where people directly pay the authors.

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          1. Go on then, tell us how compensation works. Authors don’t get paid when they sell books, is that it?

          2. What’s preventing authors from selling directly?

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            Authors are paid by the publishers upon completion of the book.

            When you buy a book the publisher gets the money directly.

            In some cases there is some revenue split, but that is uncommon for less well known authors. Either way, it usually isn’t very big.

            There is the option to self-publish, but that is very expensive to do.

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            sure. so in commercial publishing, most authors are paid with an advance against future royalties. so they are paid upfront, and only start receiving additional royalties once the advance has been paid up by sales. this makes it so the publisher has some incentive to market your book - recouping the advance. royalty payments are usually extremely small, except for the most well-established authors. so as with music, your purchase usually nets the author nothing or a very small amount

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              @HughJanus
              the reason why authors don’t sell directly is because the publishers control the distribution outlets, either directly or with agreements with the vendors. People go to buy books from marketplaces, not from your website, and there are relatively few ways for authors to directly advertise their work.

              hence piracy - encouraging people to not give any money to the publisher, but instead find some means of paying the author directly. breaking the monopoly over the marketplace.

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        Imagine selling someone a book and then later clawing it back without a refund and without giving the victim a big fat warning that you’re going to do so.

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          God that would be awful. Good thing that’s not what we’re talking about.

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            That’s what will likely happen when this company eventually goes out of business. The DRM server will go offline, and the books will be inaccessible. Cracks like this one are an insurance policy for that eventuality.

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        Unless the book is being bought directly from the writer, isn’t it really the publisher who is gaining the rewards? My understanding is that the writer is paid a lumpsum for rights of a book by a publisher.

        If the entire motto is “benefit of others”, the writer themselves can publish it for the public to read openly, or make it a collaborative project where their and other people’s contributions are added together.

        It’s not black and white, both sides of a piracy debate (much like anything else) have their arguments, and could have had reached a better medium.

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    ı dont understand why people host things thats not aligned with corporate interests into GIthub, gitlab while Codeberg, GItea etc exits

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        I’d rather not have to create an account on every individual’s instance to report bugs or contribute.

        GitHub is low barrier to me - where I can easily contribute. Because I’m already there, actively. Everything else is medium to high barrier to contribute.

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      for visibility, also codeberg is quite hostile to piracy related tools and whatnot, gitea is quite small not many instances and it gets unwanted attention. if they self-host, that’s even more risky because domain names, hosting etc can get tracked down to the owner. decentralized solutions are the best for these kind of things

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    It seems like they made the same mistake as youtube-dl back in the day. If you develop a tool that can be used for piracy, do not straight up advertise that in your readme/documentation.

    If you create a YouTube downloader, do not show it downloading music from major labels, use for a creative commons track for the demo instead.

    And dont say in the short description of your repo that this tool is meant to steal books from an online lending library.

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      Dont forget to update the readme so the releases and git command points to your gitea instead of the github.

      If you can could you make binaries? Seems like a lot of people are struggling with it and could help people make their archives more useable in the future

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        Amazon changed some things at the beginning of the year, they made it very difficult to get the actual file in azw format. They only let you download kindle unlimited books in their secure kfx(?) format, which current DRM removal plugins are unable to process.

        If you buy the book you can goto Content & Devices and download the book in azw3 format which can be processed by the DRM removal plugin.

        From what I’ve read amazon is monitoring the sites where they’re developing kfx bypass mechanisms and are sealing up those holes before a public release can be made. Which is irritating because I just hate the Kindle app and prefer MoonReader

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          I’m pretty sure someone fully cracked kfx again - they just didn’t bother to make it work for kfx directly - the newest form of azw is just zipped kfx from what I understand

          about 3 weeks ago the solution was merged to the current big active deDRM fork. Amazon seems to only respond when the new workaround percolates to the big easy to use front-ends like calibri

          (And I don’t think the timeline for amazon sealing up the holes is actually all that fast. The original setup was being spread on some forums for several months now, and the january update from amazon was also quite “late”)

          also there’s also several forms of downgrade attacks that mean only content released after amazon’s latest fix becomes uncrackable

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        I haven’t been able to get that to work for sometime, and you need a damn kindle ereader in the first place.

        I’ve stopped buying my books from Amazon and am looking for somewhere else to purchase them.

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          Mine still works. I use the kindle for pc app, but it’s an old version. I think Amazon blocked it on newer versions.

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    Whoa, if this works it’ll greatly ease my saving of rare books… without having to reboot into Windoze to use the Adobe eBook crap and Calibre just to save an unencrypted version. Thanks!

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      Update: This is awesome. To get it working I had to install some python3 dependencies since I’d recently upgraded my box. If the main DeGourou.py script isn’t running, try installing these:

      $ pip3 install lxml pycryptodome cryptography charset_normalizer

      (EDIT: just read requirements.txt it gives the above and some other dependencies. Duh.)

      Then download, while logged into archive.org, your borrowed book (download link should be “URLLink.acsm”; then run

      $ python3 ./DeGourou.py -f /tmp/URLLink.acsm

      … and the PDF with its proper filename will be saved into the curret directory.

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          Thank you :) I didn’t realize it was literally a script to install requirements!

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            It’s not. It’s a list of packages that python, when it sees the list, knows to download whilst maintaining compatibility and prevent circular dependencies (if possible)

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      The calibre (Alf) dedrm tool can work on Linux if you have your ADE set up on wine or on a windows partition

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    If I see any other clones show up I’ll add them to my private clone as remotes.

    This way I can easily collate any updates they receive and, if they all start disappearing I’ll be able to re-publish it somewhere anonymously.

    Hopefully that provides another tricky target for take-down whack-a-mole.