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    2 months ago

    Change rockets to airstrikes and ethnic cleansing and Hezbollah to Israel and you’ll understand how everyone in the region feels about Israel.

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      2 months ago

      Do you think the current situation is going to turn out better than if Hezbollah hadn’t attacked?

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        2 months ago

        In Lebanon? Probably not, by definition. In Palestine? Almost definitely yes.

        Edited because I misread/misinterpreted better as worse.

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          Can you explain how this is going to turn out ‘better’ for Lebanon? Innocent Lebanese (unless your point is there aren’t any?) are dying every day

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              Can you explain how this is going to turn out ‘better’ for Palestine? I’d say that it just further discredits the call for a two-state solution

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                First, it takes heat off Gaza and the West Bank, especially if the conflict escalates further. Second,

                I’d say that it just further discredits the call for a two-state solution

                how so? Discredits the call for a two state solution according to who and for what reason?

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                  It could prolong the war in Gaza, but unless Hezbollah mobilise their fighters for a ground invasion I think Israel has more than enough planes for both Gaza and striking back at launch sites etc. The main burden for Israel isn’t military but it’s the 100k refugees, which seems to be the reason they’re turning up the heat now

                  It undermines a two-state solution because that would require the Arab nationalists to accept the state of Israel and, more importantly, stop attacking it. It’s clear that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are never going to do that. And Hezbollah immediately attacking Israel in support of them after a major attack just shows that they too won’t ever be able to agree to a normal relation

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                    It undermines a two-state solution because that would require the Arab nationalists to accept the state of Israel and, more importantly, stop attacking it.

                    Before that Israel needs to accept that Palestine exists and stop robbing them of their right to self-determination (and, you know, not getting genocided). Israel has shown many times they have no intention of ever doing that, so how do you expect the resistance to accept them? Palestinians don’t accept Israel because Israel in its current state is unacceptable and has no intention to change, simple as that. The last real chance for change was Rabin and you know how that ended. From that it was all one big farce.

                    If you want to know what I mean by Israel in its current state, well they should at least consider the idea of not making settlements and lifting the blockade before serious talks can start. Not saying they should do both of these things before any negotiations can begin, but when the response to “can you not build settlements/lift the blockade” is “no go to hell” there’s not much to negotiate. This makes civil resistance impossible and therefore armed resistance the only method of resistance, hence Hamas’s actions and Hezbollah’s support.

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        2 months ago

        Do you think hezbollah is attacking because of the ethnic cleansing already going on via “settlers” or nah?