• Zangoose@lemmy.world
    86·
    2 months ago

    Audacity was the first one I thought of.

    Or MultiMC, PolyMC, the Sodium mod, or the original Minecraft Forge.

    (Minecraft community devs need to stop having drama lmao)

    • Korne127@lemmy.world
      48·
      2 months ago

      I love how well the PolyMC -> PrismLauncher transition went. It’s great that the asshole owning it didn’t just spew transphobic hate, but also removed the contribution rights to all other people, leading them to immediately flock to an alternative.

      • Zangoose@lemmy.world
        14·
        2 months ago

        The lead developer changed the license to a much less permissive one because of drama surrounding being credited in modpacks. The dev thinks there are forks that exist solely to sidestep crediting the original mod, I’m not up to date enough on Minecraft modding lore to know if this is true or not.

        I’m pretty sure there’s also a fork that branches off of the last GPL commit but I forget what it’s called.

        • Opisek@lemmy.world
          5·
          2 months ago

          Doesn’t GPL technically require you to attribute the upstream anyway?

          The work must carry prominent notices stating that you modified it, and giving a relevant date.

          • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            Most open sorce licenses do, not just the GPL. I’m not sure what Minecraft modpackers do. But in the free and open source world, you’ll always find that attribution. Sometimes they have a list who wrote the software and who maintained it for what timespan.

            • Zangoose@lemmy.world
              3·
              2 months ago

              Modpacks still have attribution but they likely have attribution to the fork. The fork will have attribution in the source code somewhere but most MC players aren’t likely to actually look at the GitHub repo, so they’ll only see the fork’s name.

              • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
                1·
                2 months ago

                Ah okay. I wouldn’t know. I played Minetest instead of Minecraft. And the community there seems to be nice albeit a bit small. I learned a bit of Lua and contributed some smaller fixes to some mods. But I guess the gaming and modding community for propriety games is a bit different than the open source community.

      • Zangoose@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 months ago

        The dev who owned the branding for forge (LexManos) is infamously abrasive and rude to others to the point where the forge community was slowly falling apart because new people didn’t want to be involved with him. The rest of the team decided to rebrand to NeoForge and continue without him.

    • rbits@lemm.ee
      5·
      2 months ago

      Lol, I mean it’s better to have a brief period of drama than permanently put up with the bad management. Although Sodium is an exception to that, I think the people working on it are the right people.

      I’m conflicted on the license change, though. I don’t know if it makes sense or not.

      • Zangoose@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 months ago

        That’s definitely true but at the same time why do people have to cause fights in the first place, they’re all part of a community for a game they enjoy playing :(

        I also agree with you on the sodium license change, it’s definitely the most reasonable of the ones I listed since the dev seemed to be getting maintainer burn-out and had some bad experiences with other people in the MC modding community. I don’t really like the idea of it not being OSS though because the key strength of that is not being tied to a single maintainer or group.

  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
    69·
    2 months ago

    CyanogenMod, which was the base of most custom Android ROMs at one point. After taking venture funding, incompetent business majors crashed and burned the project trying to commercialize it. It was then forked and LineageOS was born.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      191·
      2 months ago

      My big question is, why not fork the original first and commercialize that instead. So much forking around the wrong ways! /s

      • Comment105@lemm.ee
        17·
        2 months ago

        Because business majors only know how to exploit good things that would be better off without them.

        If the good thing is left to just be better off without them – while they fuck around with a separate thing – then people will never be interested in the business majors’ product.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          2·
          2 months ago

          My impression of business majors is that they get hired by people who have to use a search engine to know who to hire.

          • Comment105@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 months ago

            Business majors just get more authority than they ought to. They should be treated more like secretaries and advisors in most cases, not bosses.

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
        17·
        2 months ago

        MBAs love taking an existing brand and sucking whatever value they can extract. Like chupacabras but for functioning and useful products.

      • bitwolf@lemmy.one
        9·
        2 months ago

        iirc CyanogenMod was trademarked so the creator no longer had rights.

        Its kind of sad, but I’m sure the author knew what they were getting into

        • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          The funny thing is the whole commercialization process started with one of the future partners messaging the project lead out of the blue on LinkedIn. I don’t know about you, but taking ideas from a random LinkedIn user doesn’t strike me as good business sense.

          Then again, getting something out of your years of unpaid volunteer work must be incredibly tempting, given how many open source projects have sold out over the years. At least it was to form an actual legitimate company this time, unlike when SuperSU (the Android root solution before Magisk came along) sold themselves to a scummy foreign ad company. That one still ranks as the all time top WTF sale.

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      2 months ago

      I remember hearing about Cyanogen way back when, didn’t realize LineageOS was forked from it

  • TheHarpyEagle@pawb.social
    52·
    2 months ago

    OpenOffice was a really solid Microsoft Office rival, and FOSS to boot. Made by Sun Microsystems, of course, and then ruined by Oracle (of course).

    Thankfully LibreOffice was forked from it and is still going strong as a very capable suite of document tools. And OpenOffice is basically dead, womp womp.

    • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
      15·
      2 months ago

      Recently tried MS Office apps for the first time in 8 or so years. Somehow they made them less intuitive than even ribbon days. They use a dark pattern save dialog that makes it easy to accidentally save to OneDrive, and if you have OneDrive disabled or uninstalled, there’s an always present icon in the title bar of the main edit window that says “autosave off” even though autosave is on.

      Went right back to LibreOffice after one document and one spreadsheet.

    • philpo@feddit.orgDeutsch
      3·
      2 months ago

      And before OpenOffice there was Star Office.

      Now I feel old.

      Especially as I also remember when I used to write with Lotus Word Pro.

    • Pumpkin Escobar@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 months ago

      It has been on my list to figure out how to move to forgejo, need to do it soon before the migration process breaks or gets awful.

      • Opisek@lemmy.world
        13·
        2 months ago

        If you’re using docker: change your image name from gitea to forgejo. Repull. Done. Baremetal should be just as simple. Migrations are as easy as leaving all the data in-place and changing the binary at this moment in time.

  • Refurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org
    32·
    2 months ago

    DuckStation recently changed to a source-available license that prohibits distributing modified versions of the software and prohibits commercial use. Before, it was GPLv3.

    Also OpenOffice, Emby, Audacity, Android (AOSP) (soft forked to LineageOS and GrapheneOS, but no hard fork)

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      5·
      2 months ago

      What’s the difference between a soft fork and a hard fork, besides being careful with your teeth?

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Soft forks try to maintain code compatible so changes can apply to both code bases. Normally done when there’s hope of a future merging of the code lines. They rarely work, as eventually thing get hard.

      • Brahvim Bhaktvatsal@lemmy.kde.socialisiZulu
        141·
        2 months ago

        DuckStation recently changed to a source-available license that prohibits distributing modified versions of the software and prohibits commercial use. Before, it was GPLv3.

        DuckStation is an emulator for some Sony PlayStation console. PS2, I think Thanks to FangedWeyvern42@lemmy.world I know that it was a PS1 emulator. This software used to be given to users under the GPLv3 license, which grants freedoms such as distribution of the source code of the software (DuckStation) for no extra cost (well, DuckStation also costs no money! …so, you get to eat the cake and learn its recipe too, for free!).

        …Now they’ve switched to a license which allows you to see the source code, but does not grant you rights over the source code that GPLv3 did (which is essentially ANYTHING as long as you publicize everything you make with the source code, under the GPLv3 license also - changes to the code, new software that uses any portion of the code, anything you make with it).

        OpenOffice, Emby, Audacity, and Android (the “Android Open-Source Project”) have also done this in the past.

        Knowing this stuff on Free, Libre, and Open-Source (“FLOSS”) platforms like Lemmy is almost necessary given that they’re built on these principles. Please get acquainted with them.

  • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de
    18·
    2 months ago

    Insomnia suddenly turned into a ransomware. Pay up or have all you dara lost!

    A few days later Insomnium popped up supporting the old file format.

    • bitwolf@lemmy.one
      4·
      2 months ago

      Oh thanks! I switched to Bruno but much of our company still uses Insomnia and I’ve been pushing to get it blacklisted, because of the dark pattern, and the likelihood of tricking staff to upload credentials.

    • Scrollone@feddit.it
      4·
      2 months ago

      Too bad Insomnium quickly became a dead project. Luckily, Bruno and its file-based projects are perfect.

  • yannic@lemmy.ca
    16·
    2 months ago

    There are many examples of this, but one that comes immediately to mind is the evolution of my favourite LDAP-enabled music player, airsonic-advanced

    Subsonic begat libresonic

    Libresonic begat airsonic as well as a whole bunch of other projects.

    Airsonic begat airsonic-advanced

    Airsonic-advanced begat kagemomiji/airsonic-advanced, however the maintainer of the parent codebase, randomnicode, wants to do the right thing and get their code up to snuff with the opensubsonic API (not sure where that fits in to thr history) so kagemomji can take over.

      • yannic@lemmy.ca
        1·
        2 months ago

        They all have their quirks, but until airsonic-advanced catches up with the latest opensubsonic API, I’ve been trying out Audinaut, DSub, and Ultrasonic. I had to reorganize my whole library, though.

        I’m not a fan of these album-based apps. most of my music falls under “Various Artists”. As such, I’ve been playing around with Musicbrainz Picard to try different tagging in an attempt to try to find something that works across both at the server and client end.

        Subsonic doesn’t work for me, I’m guessing because it refuses to fall back to earlier versions of their API. I could be wrong.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      34·
      2 months ago

      It’s Mozilla that’s slowly enshittifying, Firefox itself is theoretically insulated from the worst decisions they could make, but those safeguards are going to be put to the test real soon I bet.

      • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        2 months ago

        You think Thunderbird is insulated? Their latest big drunk UI lift seems to have somehow made it even less intuitive.

    • superkret@feddit.org
      9·
      2 months ago

      Any good alternatives that use the same engine, but aren’t just “Firefox after rustling the about:config a bit”?

      • Pandasdontfly@lemmy.today
        3·
        2 months ago

        It’s not thaaaat different but my favorite browser is floorp and stuff like vertical tabs, workspaces, split view

    • TheHarpyEagle@pawb.social
      8·
      2 months ago

      They seem so directionless lately, and by god is AI the wrong horse to bet on for their users.

      I should check out LibreWolf…

      • cm0002@lemmy.world
        14·
        2 months ago

        Here’s a comment about it I made a few weeks back in the context of why Jellyfin came to be and why I only ever recommend Plex or Jellyfin

        This is going to go back quite a ways, and much of my knowledge is old at this point so some details might be off.

        ~15 years ago Plex as we know it started out as an OSX fork of the 0G Xbox homebrew software XBMC (Later renamed Kodi (For those who don’t know, XBMC was XBox Media Center and would turn the 0g Xbox into the cheapest Home Theater PC you could get at the time, man those were the days lol))

        Plex was only briefly open source and then was quickly closed when they incorporated a year or so after they had something functional. They never made any promises about not charging or being open source or anything, so that’s why I’m generally fine with Plex

        Sometime around 2012ish Emby came along as THE open source alternative to Plex and things were good. MOST of it was supposed to stay open source as was promised. From the beginning they kept build scripts n such closed source, probably should have caught on them, but heh ya know hindsight and all that.

        Then around 2014/5 they took it all closed source, relicensed it and introduced their paywall including locking away already existing features. This is what pissed me and many others off and this is when and why Jellyfin split off promising to be truly fully open source forever. (There was a ton of drama about it at the time, but it looks like Embys Q&A thing a bit back doesn’t even bother to mention it, imagine that lol)

        I don’t have a problem with subscriptions on open source software myself, but the way they went about it…yea. fuck em

  • devilish666@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 months ago

    I hope someone made STACER (a.k.a Bleachbit on roids) remastered
    The owner of that project already abandoned it, it’s sad STACER already had so…much potential compared to Bleachbit but no one wants to revive it

  • azthec@feddit.nl
    4·
    2 months ago

    Maybe a bit niche, but if you’re in the Scala ecosystem and seen what happened with Akka -> Apache Pekko. Version one of Pekko was a 1-1 rename of Akka