• Chozo@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    Because it’s a genocide. The point isn’t to just take out Hamas and say “mission accomplished”, it’s to take out the entirety of Palestine and say “we tried our best to save them”. Hamas has to continue existing in order for Israel to keep justifying every extension to this war.

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      3 months ago

      But then why commit any ground troops at all?

      If they just wanted to wipe out Gaza they’d have done it on Oct 8th. Could hardly take more than an hour.

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        If I had to guess, I’d say funding and plausible deniability are the big reasons. The longer the war wages on, the longer the US and other allies keep sending them money and weapons. And killing them off slowly makes it easier to argue to the ICC that you weren’t trying to commit genocide, it just kinda happened as an oh-so-unfortunate side-effect of defending themselves.

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          What “plausible deniability”?

          If they spent two hours killing everyone in Gaza, it’d be over before anyone could do anything about it. And then what? Nobody’s going to war with a nuclear power in revenge for Gazans. Bibi just stops visiting Brooklyn and nothing happens.

          But they don’t do that. The Jews of Israel bleed and die to save the lives of Gazans who hate them. I wouldn’t, but they do.

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            It took the Germans a while to liquidate the Warsaw Ghetto. The Zionists have killed 200,000 so far (according to the Lancet) and rendered all of Gaza uninhabitable.

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              It took the Germans a while to liquidate the Warsaw Ghetto.

              Only because they used starvation instead of air power. Israel sends 3500 calories to Gaza per Gazan per day; that’s more food per day than a person eats in Luxembourg.

              The Zionists have killed 200,000 so far (according to the Lancet)

              You surely mean “according to a letter someone sent to the Lancet, using a methodology that counts currently-living persons as “fatalities.”

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                Israel israhellonearth sends 3500 calories to Gaza per Gazan per day

                Rockets and bullets don’t count.

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                    I refuse to allow Zionists to hijack the Jewish faith for their distorted agenda. Stop straw manning the argument.

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                2 months ago

                If you believe that then I’ve got a pile of international NGO and UN reports you need to read.

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        Because they just might actually find some of the hostages. Also it’s a great way to corral people and aid, and keep them separate.

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          But they aren’t separate. Gaza is receiving so much aid from Israel they say they’re running out of places to put it.

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            Yup all of the international reports from NGOs and the UN are wrong. Israel says so, so it must be true right?

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              Yes! They deliberately omit most of the food aid entering Gaza, to deliberately undercount calories per person. That’s not according to Israel; that’s according to the UN itself.

              That’s why the UN has predicted “mass famine” but it never actually happens.

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                Are you talking about where they don’t count the food Isrealis turn around?

                And it very much is happening. It’s happening right now and has been happening for months now.

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                  Are you talking about where they don’t count the food Isrealis turn around?

                  No, the food that goes in. The UN analysis deliberately excludes up to 70% of the food aid entering over the Israeli border into Gaza. All told it’s 3500 calories per Gazan per day, since Oct 7 - well shy of “famine”, entirely the opposite.

                  These figures have been verified by independent observers and by the UN.