"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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    So if they can’t vote for their views now, and we keep pushing the duopoly, when do we get democracy?

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      That’s the thing, they never do. They have been pushing the lesser evil splitting the vote bullshit for over 150 years. The only people that benefits is the wealthy

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        Were the party system changes before then more due to

        • a major party crushing the other major party, and then splitting, or

        • a minor party growing and eventually replacing one of the two major parties?

        Bonus points if anyone has a source on this.

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      When you start doing things that actually work.

      Look up the Moral Majority and Jerry Falwell. They would show up at every local GOP organizing event with enough voters to make sure their candidates for jobs like mayor, sheriff, and county clerk got the nod.

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        Gotcha, I’ll keep organizing outside the useless electoral system.

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              That’s a neat way to say “being too lazy to actually make a difference, but I don’t want to feel bad about it”.

              Cryophilia said it better than I could, so I’ll repeat their comment.

              I’ll just add that if you aren’t interested in passing laws you should vote for Harris if only to annoy the Right.

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                That’s a neat way to say “being too lazy to actually make a difference, but I don’t want to feel bad about it”.

                I don’t believe the way forward is by passing laws in a system that cannot be reformed into a good one, so it doesn’t make sense to judge my praxis by passing laws within said system.

                I’ll just add that if you aren’t interested in passing laws you should vote for Harris if only to annoy the Right.

                I think this right here illustrates your political views perfectly, “owning the chuds” is more important than actually working towards progress.

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                  I’m sure your outside organizing will be much easier under the “let’s arrest or deport everyone that does agree with us, burn all the books with ideas we don’t agree with, and you’ll never have to vote again” candidate.

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                  I don’t believe the way forward is by passing laws

                  Name one piece of actual progress you’ve made. One would be nice.

                  You probably love to rail at Obamacare and point out that it was originally created by Mitt Romney.

                  Maybe the ACA wasn’t perfect, but 40 million people have some health insurance who wouldn’t have had it without Obama and the Dems.

                  What have you done that’s helped anyone?