• Dearth@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Try not to act surprised when you do nothing to elect leftist candidates locally and at the state level next year. Or any leftist candidates to the legislature at mid terms. And then in 4 years try not to act surprised that the POTUS candidates appeal to neoliberal, centrist and conservatives who have proven to engage with politics for decades and thus being an safe strategy to the white house.

    Pouting about it won’t endear people to your cause.

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      2 months ago

      Try not to act surprised when you do nothing to elect leftist candidates locally and at the state level next year.

      The party protects anti-choice NRA stooge candidates like Cuellar, but refuses to protect incumbent progressives like Bowman and Bush.

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        2 months ago

        The party does. And feeble-minded armchair leftists cosplayers sit around bickering about whos the truest scotsman until 6 months before the next presidential election and act surprised that nobody wants to engage with their top-down approach to political revolution

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          2 months ago

          So the party does everything it can to lock out the left and you blame the left for not being able to start from the bottom.

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            2 months ago

            Is it surprising to you that those in power act to keep themselves in power? If it is surprising maybe it’s time to brush up on your theory. Das Kapital may be the seminal work on the topic, but as a California native i think Huey P Newton is more relevant to modern American life and better illustrates how bottom-up organization is more effective for creating actual change

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              2 months ago

              Is it surprising to you that those in power act to keep themselves in power?

              No. It shouldn’t have surprised me that centrists would blame the left for the actions of centrists to fuck them over, either.

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      2 months ago

      So by your own admission, you acknowledge that your entire party is neoliberal, centrist and conservative. They have become the dominant right-wing conservative party

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          2 months ago

          If you are giving them your power it’s your party.

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              2 months ago

              If you’re willing to overlook things like genocide so you don’t lose your privilege and position of status in society, it doesn’t appear that I’m the shallow one.

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                Oh yes, you know my motivations better than me. Please tell me the queer father of trans mixed race children how im voting for my own self interest you absolute child

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                  2 months ago

                  You fear losing the table scraps they toss you when theres a means to get the whole meal.

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                    2 months ago

                    Tell me more about what i fear and what motivates me. Or better yet, get off the internet and try praxis with real people in your community.

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                2 months ago

                well go fight your war instead of removed at everyone else then. we don’t need you here.

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                  2 months ago

                  I’m not going anywhere, trying to silence dissent is very right wing of you.

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                    2 months ago

                    That’s kinda lumping in book burnings and shooting protestors with being asked to leave a website by some rando.