• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    They barely even fact checked him in the first place. They called him on a total of, what, three things? As opposed to the probably dozens of other complete untruths he uttered, not even just about policy and so forth but actual empirically verifiable elements of reality?

    Here’s just what I spotted:

    • Lied about not being involved with Project 2025 and not knowing what it is. We know he is acutely aware of what it is, and in fact some members of his staff were involved in its framing.
    • Lied about the number of immigrants coming into the country.
    • Further lied stating that other countries were “sending all their criminals and mental patients.”
    • Claimed people were “aborting” babies after birth (called out by moderators).
    • Claimed Harris said she would ban fracking in Pennsylvania (called out by Harris).
    • Lied about crime rates going “through the roof” (called out by moderators).
    • Responded to this by claiming FBI crime stats were falsified by “leaving out problem cities.”
    • Lied about migrants eating people’s pets (called out by moderators).
    • Lied about inflation numbers post-pandemic.
    • Lied claiming that “Biden” built the Nordstream pipeline.
    • Distorted the truth by claiming he won more votes than any sitting president in the last election, failing to mention that Biden still got more.

    There were probably others.

    He also essentially admitted that his plan for the war in Ukraine was to just let Russia win. That should be pretty damn worrisome for anyone.

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      2 months ago

      I wish they had pushed him harder on the simple yes or no questions.

      Also, Harris missed a perfect opportunity to point out that Trump has been the only president that has advocated a gun ban. “take the guns and figure out due process later”

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      I’m sure he was completely truthful when he said he didn’t read Project 2025. It would be very surprising if he read anything besides Mein Kampf.

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      Lied about Kamala being a Border Czar. She led a diplomatic initiative aimed at curbing immigration, she was never directly involved in border matters.

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      I learned that what he does actually has a special name. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

      The Gish gallop (/ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/) is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, with no regard for their accuracy or strength, with a rapidity that makes it impossible for the opponent to address them in the time available. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper’s arguments at the expense of their quality.

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      2 months ago

      Lied about how much aid the US is giving Ukraine and how others are not. Lied about how the aid is given (it’s in US made products not in Cash, the money stays in the US).

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        2 months ago

        Go ask whatever parasite is running the show in Trump’s brain - it doesn’t make any sense and I remember being very confused by that claim in real time