3,060,000 German military personnel were taken prisoner by the USSR and that 1,094,250 died in captivity (549,360 from 1941 to April 1945; 542,911 from May 1945 to June 1950 and 1,979 from July 1950 to 1955)

lemmitor “My innocent Aryan warriors”

Wehrmacht was not a Nazi organisation. Members were free to join the party but they were not under any obligation. The SS was an explicitly Nazi army but completely separate from the Wehrmacht.

Very cool clean Wehrmacht myth

Good to know world isnt a leftist echo chamber, you can share nazi propaganda too

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    89·
    2 months ago

    BTW, 3 million Soviet PoWs were starved, systematically worked to death or outright executed by the nazis. When you compare it with the deaths among PoWs of other nationalities, let alone deaths in captivity of other armies, it becomes very obvious that members of the Red Army were systematically targeted for extermination when they fell into German hands.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      21·
      2 months ago

      Not to mention the Commissar Order. Soviet commissars were to be immediately killed on sight or in the event of capture. The thing about war crimes is they go both ways. You start killing POWs, the other side has no reason to not do the same.

      If the Germans didn’t want their POWs killed, maybe they should have thought about that before issuing an order offering no quarter.

  • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    63·
    2 months ago

    It’s nice to see even Lemmy.world users recognize that this is Nazi Apologia in the comments section, though the upvote ratio is horrifying.

    I wonder if the gradual slide further and further to the right as a result of Lemmy.world’s Zionist moderators and anti-Communist stances in general will alienate the more “progressive” liberals, radicalizing them eventually? Would be nice. sicko-wistful

    Edit: lmao it got taken down

  • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
    62·
    2 months ago

    Everybody that buys into the clean Wehrmacht myth is hoping that history is as kind to them with all their sins as they are to Nazi sympathizers. The even compare supporting the Nazis with supporting the invasion of Iraq. It’s literally them just trying to not be remembered as bad people for all the horrible things they support/benefit from, when the much easier solution is to change beliefs to be better

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      20·
      2 months ago

      We now know one of the reasons nazis created the death camp industrial murder places was because their soldiers kept getting PTSD. Early in the Holocaust, they had troops shoot, stab, beat, and burn undesirables. Not only was this costly in terms of time and resources, suicides rates and alcohol use skyrocketed among the ranks carrying out these orders. Interviews with Holocaust perpetrators reveal they believed what they were doing was a necessary evil to eliminate judeo-bolshevism, but still left them feeling guilty.

      It’s no secret US veterans from Vietnam, Afghanistan, and the 2003 Iraq War had higher levels of PTSD compared to conflicts like Desert Storm and Somalia. I’m wondering now if it’s because America fell into the same pitfalls as Nazi Germany regarding war crimes.

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      42·
      2 months ago

      That account is wild before that post but damn I didn’t think they’d be this mask off

      I was reading through wikipedia on world war two, and found out that over half a million german prisoners of war died in soviet gulags after the end of the war.

      I’m pretty well read on world war two and I’d never heard that before, so I decided to post it on “today I learned”.

      There’s a real problem with Neo-nazis, less on lemmy, but it’s increasing worldwide. But you’re accusing the wrong person.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    61·
    2 months ago

    Who could have predicted that the instance that protected having right wing chasers as mods would attract nazis! Nobody could possibly see this coming!

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.netEnglish
    44·
    2 months ago

    Wehrmacht was not a Nazi organisation. Members were free to join the party but they were not under any obligation. The SS was an explicitly Nazi army but completely separate from the Wehrmacht.

    Now if I were standing beneath a flag with a giant Hakenkreuz on it, swearing an unconditional, corpse-like obedience up to and including my own life to the leader of the Nazi Party, concluding with three shouts of “Sieg Heil!”… Yeah, I would probably feel like I wasn’t quite living up to my standard of not being a Nazi.

    — In fact, if I was serving in the Norwegian Armed Forces, or the United States Armed Forces, at any point after World War II, I would then too feel like I was betraying my own moral standards, because believe it or not, you are not obligated to join a specific political party to commit or be complicit in horrific atrocities. Who knew!

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.netEnglish
      17·
      2 months ago

      if I was serving in the Norwegian Armed Forces, or the United States Armed Forces, at any point after World War II, I would then too feel like I was betraying my own moral standards

      Well, I say this, but I don’t spit on the graves of deceased relatives who served in the military, nor berate my living relatives who served. I’m sure this is what most people morally opposed to imperial-core military service do, but I still worry that it makes me a hypocrite.

      Edit: In fact, I still cry sometimes about a memory I have of my granddad from when I was a little kid. This was a very long time ago, and I was too little to understand everything, but as I recall it I was visiting his house, and I gave my granddad a big hug, and playfully “rubbed my scent” on him pretending to be a cat, for I liked to “play cat” and I was very glad to see him… Then after that visit, the following day, I was told by my mom not to hug my granddad in that way ever again. She explained that the specific playful way I’d hugged him, had apparently reminded him of a child that he played with shortly before a traumatic incident back when he was a UN peacekeeper — and so I had accidentally triggered my granddad’s PTSD.

      In that moment, I think, I came to better understand the toll of war… That war is not just lost lives that can be mourned, not just physical injuries that can heal or be accommodated for, not just destroyed buildings that can be rebuilt — that war is also a child being told it can’t give its grandpa a hug. And that to me really seemed like a fate worse than death, to be emotionally crippled by a hug from one’s own grandchild… I never knew that child from granddad’s memory, I never knew its name or gender or hobbies or when exactly it was born, and I either wasn’t told or I cannot remember the country that granddad was deployed in — yet I still wonder if in that moment, when I was told what I had done to my granddad… that between two very different countries in two very different times, that two children were still haunted by the same monster.

        • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.netEnglish
          8·
          2 months ago

          The timeline works and I feel a very dim flicker of a lightbulb in my head, but I should ask a relative to confirm… Well, really I should’ve asked my mom a long time ago, but opportunities don’t exactly often come up to just ask out of the blue, “Hey, remember that time when I accidentally triggered my granddad’s PTSD? What was the deal with that?”