HMD's "sustainable" phones don't have software built to last.
  • IllNess@infosec.pubEnglish
    21·
    4 months ago

    This is the main reason they got rid of the headphone jack. Some headphones lasted forever.

    Now you have Bluetooth earbuds with tiny batteries that goes in a case with another small battery. Batteries that small will last 5 years tops. On top of that sound quality hasn’t improved and latency got worse.

        • accideath@lemmy.worldEnglish
          25·
          3 months ago

          Don’t need a dongle life, necessarily. I have a decent pair of cans with removable cable, so I just got a cable that terminates in a lightning connector. And through magnetic wireless charging I can even charge while listening to music.

          Sure, that’s not optimal, not the solution for everyone and no reason for phone manufacturers to not include headphone jacks but it does work and without dongles at that.

            • accideath@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              3 months ago

              As I already said, the cable is removable. If I want to use them with a usb-c device, I can exchange the cable for one with a usb-c plug and if I want to use them with a standard headphone jack, I can get one with that. It’s a bog standard pair of cans with removable cable. I can even get cables with in line microphones or short cables or extra long cables or with entirely different connectors. It’s just a 5€ cable. Also, when I bought the cable, the connector wasn’t yet obsolete. Lightning has been around for quite a while.

              And sure, it’s not as good as just having a headphone jack, but as I don’t have one on my phone, that’s the next best thing, if I want a wired connection.

                • accideath@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  3 months ago

                  I‘m not constantly switching those headphones between devices. I use them with my phone, when I want to actively listen to lossless music, so I got the cable that works for that. When I eventually upgrade to a phone with USB-C, I’ll get a cable for that.

                  And most of the time, when I’m out n about I use cheap wireless earbuds anyways, because I don’t like fighting with cables when I‘m actively doing stuff and all I listen to with them are podcasts anyways.

                  Yes, I would be happier with a headphone jack but I don’t have one, so what else can I do?

      • IllNess@infosec.pubEnglish
        8·
        3 months ago

        Yes that is true but speaking on clinging on to an older phone, a headphone jack had a superior physical hold. My phone got saved a few times because my phone was connected to my wired headphones.

        These dongles that came with phones were also usually very thin. It also sticks out and made of plastic. It just adds another weak point. They somehow added a weak point to a great piece of technology… On top of that phones no longer comes with the dongles.

        Also dongles aren’t sexy. It looks like a hack to make something work. Phone companies made headphones unsexy while making wireless earbuds really sexy.

        Some people said that a headphone jack made dustproofing and waterproofing more difficult. Maybe but it had be done before. They also said it brings down the price of the phone to get rid of them. Weird considering the Google A series and Samsung mid range phones had it but their flagship phones didn’t.

        You made a lot of great points. Thank you for those.

        I actually have bluetooth earbuds either came bundled, or I was gifted them. They have come a long way. Easier to connect. Better latency and better sound quality compared to the older version of bluetooth.

        I like them, I am not a complete hater but I really am annoyed that this stuff will just turn to ewaste while my headphones have lasted me decades.

        I’m just an old head yelling at the clouds.

          • IllNess@infosec.pubEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            I am definitely not trying to defend the manufacturers here, only point out that there are solutions for those like myself who want to continue using their wired headphones with newer phones.

            Understood.

            I agree with you with the SD card too. That one probably annoys me more. It made everything so much more difficult. Transferring files, backups, swapping out music, seeing pictures from a camera or drone… Made the device less like a computer in everyway.

      • miss phant@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        51·
        4 months ago

        The only reason I ever wired my headphones to my phone was rhythm games and now with USB-C this adds latency making the whole thing pointless.