I’m neither American, European, Russian, nor Chinese, and have no clear vested interest in any if them. Seeing how Americans view China as the “big evil” from the outside is just mind-boggling. Most of the bad stuff you think China did, they didn’t. Some of the terrible stuff they did, the US did as well. They do have a bad side that the US doesn’t have, but the US does some things worse than China.
Now its easy for the naive to just reply “whataboutism” to my comment and move on. But what I’m trying to say is that the world isn’t black and white. The US isn’t the “good guys”, no one is. Take a look at some communities on Lemmygrad. You might change some of your views.
You’re putting words into that person’s mouth. He said there are a lot of people on these communities who unfailingly defend totalitarian and repressive actions taken by China or Russia. Many trying to discredit people who express opposing views (like you tried to do) or denying that they did those things or how not bad those things might be (also like you tried to do).
US is nowhere in here. There’s no one here right now defending US, saying republicans are awesome or that Afghanistan, Iraq or Vietnam were morally right or that CIA/NSA works for the best interests of people. You’ll find if you open your mind a little that there are a lot of people critical of how things run in the US, even people who live there.
Some will make their way here, there are alot of tankies on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml who somehow love Russia and China
We can speak the same of extreme American leftist.
What? I know alot of far left people and they don’t like Russia or China at all
I meant you can already find echochambers from American far-leftist people on Lemmy.
I’m not surprised, you can likely find both
I’m neither American, European, Russian, nor Chinese, and have no clear vested interest in any if them. Seeing how Americans view China as the “big evil” from the outside is just mind-boggling. Most of the bad stuff you think China did, they didn’t. Some of the terrible stuff they did, the US did as well. They do have a bad side that the US doesn’t have, but the US does some things worse than China.
Now its easy for the naive to just reply “whataboutism” to my comment and move on. But what I’m trying to say is that the world isn’t black and white. The US isn’t the “good guys”, no one is. Take a look at some communities on Lemmygrad. You might change some of your views.
You’re putting words into that person’s mouth. He said there are a lot of people on these communities who unfailingly defend totalitarian and repressive actions taken by China or Russia. Many trying to discredit people who express opposing views (like you tried to do) or denying that they did those things or how not bad those things might be (also like you tried to do).
US is nowhere in here. There’s no one here right now defending US, saying republicans are awesome or that Afghanistan, Iraq or Vietnam were morally right or that CIA/NSA works for the best interests of people. You’ll find if you open your mind a little that there are a lot of people critical of how things run in the US, even people who live there.
Disclaimer: I’m not from the US.
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Where did I say anything like that?