The actual origin, in this case, is irrelevant. We all understand that, I think. Unless you’re talking to someone who supports French monarchy, I dunno, maybe then it matters.
Anyway, removing American-centric politics from the discussion which defines “left” as anything that helps people and right as anything that harms… or pro-business as they’d prefer to define that. Both are extremely far right wing, pro-capitalist…
It’s just the definition that has emerged over time. Again, ignoring the irrelevant jabbering of US and other western ally media bullshit, it’s extremely clear that the US state and allies actually agrees with the generally understood definition. The republicans and such will call Harris a commie or whatever, but the US state loves someone like her in power elsewhere if she can hold the power. Typically it requires more militaristic, further right wing leaders unafraid to do horrible things. However, the moment someone who is “left wing” aka anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist comes along, well that’s unacceptable obviously, and opposition mounts. Not because of their “woke” beliefs (or lack thereof) but always always always because of their anti-capitalist beliefs. Specifically the abolition of private property and land ownership being huge “no nos” to capitalists.
So it’s a definition that has arisen due to reality. The further you are from supporting capitalism, supporting private property ownership and capital accumulation, the further left wing you are understood to be and the more the forces of capital will oppose your existence as a implicit threat to their own existence.
It’s more than just vibes. It’s backed up by the reality. I could also define it as “left wing means anti-US imperialism.” The more left wing you are considered to be, the more you oppose the US due to imperialism (capitalism), thus you are an anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist.
Right wing is an alignment with capitalism and imperialism. Devotees and adherents to the US as it exists and has existed since the beginning but especially the last 100-150 years or so are absolutely pro-capitalist, pro-imperialist, opposed to the left wing (they say this themselves) communists or anti-imperialists.
That’s how I see it anyway. My view isn’t unique or special. Maybe the word strict wasn’t the best, but, it’s a comment made on my phone when I should be doing other things. I’m willing to insert the word “general” or “understood” or whatever in its place, but I maintain the original thoughts. Which was more of a rant/stating the obvious anyway.
The actual origin, in this case, is irrelevant. We all understand that, I think. Unless you’re talking to someone who supports French monarchy, I dunno, maybe then it matters.
Anyway, removing American-centric politics from the discussion which defines “left” as anything that helps people and right as anything that harms… or pro-business as they’d prefer to define that. Both are extremely far right wing, pro-capitalist…
It’s just the definition that has emerged over time. Again, ignoring the irrelevant jabbering of US and other western ally media bullshit, it’s extremely clear that the US state and allies actually agrees with the generally understood definition. The republicans and such will call Harris a commie or whatever, but the US state loves someone like her in power elsewhere if she can hold the power. Typically it requires more militaristic, further right wing leaders unafraid to do horrible things. However, the moment someone who is “left wing” aka anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist comes along, well that’s unacceptable obviously, and opposition mounts. Not because of their “woke” beliefs (or lack thereof) but always always always because of their anti-capitalist beliefs. Specifically the abolition of private property and land ownership being huge “no nos” to capitalists.
So it’s a definition that has arisen due to reality. The further you are from supporting capitalism, supporting private property ownership and capital accumulation, the further left wing you are understood to be and the more the forces of capital will oppose your existence as a implicit threat to their own existence.
It’s more than just vibes. It’s backed up by the reality. I could also define it as “left wing means anti-US imperialism.” The more left wing you are considered to be, the more you oppose the US due to imperialism (capitalism), thus you are an anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist.
Right wing is an alignment with capitalism and imperialism. Devotees and adherents to the US as it exists and has existed since the beginning but especially the last 100-150 years or so are absolutely pro-capitalist, pro-imperialist, opposed to the left wing (they say this themselves) communists or anti-imperialists.
That’s how I see it anyway. My view isn’t unique or special. Maybe the word strict wasn’t the best, but, it’s a comment made on my phone when I should be doing other things. I’m willing to insert the word “general” or “understood” or whatever in its place, but I maintain the original thoughts. Which was more of a rant/stating the obvious anyway.