• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    You want there to be this different thing that this protest about. I wish it was about that thing too. But when a protestor says “I’m protesting about this thing” my job isn’t to tell them they are actually protesting some other thing or that they should be protesting this other thing. My job is to listen to them and believe what they are telling me.

    But the protestors are being clear about what they are protesting about. They want the hostages back. They are not talking at all about stopping the genocide.

    As far as people I’ve talked to about this. One is a personal friend, a former IDF soldier and former fellow organizer during BLM 2020. We organized as part of a veterans coalition in support of BLM. Second is my cousins and Uncle (a self described Zionist) who is a very high level organizer on the US side for Israel. He has spent years in Israel although he lives in the US, as have my cousins. I’ve also spoken with my irl best friend who is from Palestine and with whom I was literally planning a trip to Gaza for not that if not for Oct 7th, who has personally organized Palestinians for peace events in Gaza.

    I also listen to and read several prominent Palestinian/ Muslim/ and Jewish voices on the left.

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      4 months ago

      I have asked you a question twice now. You said you would answer it. You did not.

      But the protestors are being clear about what they are protesting about.

      Let’s reduce my question to just the people protesting: out of the thousands, what percentage of them have you actually heard from about why they are protesting?

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        4 months ago

        Ok. I think you need a break for the day. I can’t treat you as if you are arguing in good faith at this point.

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          4 months ago

          You edited your post after I replied to you in order to answer my question and claim I’m the one not arguing in good faith?

          The fact is you have no idea what most of the 9.5 million Israelis think. You just pretend you do. Which is bigoted.

          Also, by repeatedly referring to the diaspora, you are also implying that Israelis and Jews are the same thing. Which is also bigoted.

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              4 months ago

              Did you say this or not?

              All the Jewish led criticism I’ve found of Israels actions appears to be coming from the diaspora. I can’t find sources from within Israel calling the Israeli campaign a genocide or calling for it to stop.

              Israeli and Jew are not synonyms. There are more Jews who are American citizens in New York than the entire population of Israel.