Hi all, I’m one of the mods that apparently caused lemmy.world to melt down for two weeks. It’s a lovely sunny Sunday arvo, and I’d much rather go catch the last rays of sun in my garden than write about mod drama. Alas, I must have sinned in a past life.

Today the lemmy.world admins made a follow up post about the incident where the admin Rooki interfered with moderation of this community in a way which was determined to be against lemmy.world TOS and factually incorrect. Throughout this incident there has been no communication with me, nor to my knowledge any of of the other moderators of this community. Rooki quitely undid his actions and edited his post to admit fault however there was no public acknowledgement of this from him. In fact I wasn’t even told I was reinstated as a mod which is quite funny.

The lemmy.world admins’ response appears more focused on managing their own reputations and justifying similar actions in the future than providing a good environment for vegans, and other similarly maligned groups. Their statements about wanting to handle misinformation and overreach better in the future ring a bit hollow when they won’t take actions to address the anti-vegan circlejerks under their update posts which abound with misinformation and disinformation.

The legalese written basically allows for the same thing to happen, and that if it does the admin decision is to stand while moderators have to quietly resolve the conflict at the admins’ leisure. Presumably with a similarly weak public apology and barely visible record correction after the fact.

This community already has a fairly high moderation burden, with many users coming here in bad faith and getting outraged when they are told to take it elsewhere.

I have spoken with /u/neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com and /u/Beaver@lemmy.ca and we are of the opinion that given the lack of assurance that admins with an axe to grind wont interfere in the future this is no longer a space we are interested in moderating and can’t in good faith recommend as a place to host a vegan community. Instead we would recommend that users come to !vegan@vegantheoryclub.org (note, not federated with .world, make a local account), additionally !vegan@lemmy.ml, !vegan@slrpnk.net, and !vegan@hexbear.net are well moderated and run.

Mods are just glorified internet janitors though, so if any current mods or users want to take over the responsibility of primary management from /u/neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com they are welcome to do so and should get in touch. Otherwise I think the consensus is to close this community for now.

Finally I’d just like to express gratitude for the great effort put in by the users here. In particular /u/Rose@lemmy.world you are a bloody champion for trying to get a better outcome here, we all appreciate it immensely.

  • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    I personally hope vegantheoryclub goes away, as one of the admins is basically a man-child, so I have blocked the instance on every single account I have.

    I have a lot of limitations (food allergies) which limit me from being vegan, but I appreciate a lot of the random vegan foods that pop up here, some of which I can actually eat, because I like doing what I can against a horrendous industry. I’d even say most of my food ends up being vegan - the big thing for me is gluten, though there are others, a lot of gluten free foods are also vegan.

    I also left .world due to… We’ll just say downright brainless takes, so I entirely understand. Good luck whereever you folks end up!

    ETA: One admin is entirely OK with marginalized people being persecuted because they hate america I guess? Which to me just makes for a terrible person I can’t even support with my presence.

    LOL guess they found me on another alt of theirs, since they like doing that (and I blocked their main)

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      17 days ago

      I know exactly the person you’re talking about. He deleted several of my good faith comments just because he could. I didn’t have to block at least: I reposted the deleted comments until I caught a ban. Small victories.

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        17 days ago

        I’m sure I was banned as well, at least on this account. Others I preemptively blocked, I don’t trust anyone with admins who are just… Cool with hate and people getting hurt as long as its not effecting them directly.