For example workplace harrasment by women towards males like touching or groping being ignored because the victim is male but if it where to happen to a woman by a male the male would be fired

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    Why is it okay for twoX to be devoted to women’s issues and actively discourage comparing them to men’s issues, but men can’t have an analogous space?

    Fwiw, if your twoX was different from previous similarly-named communities then I am sorry it closed.

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      I think you misunderstood me. I do think men should have an analogous space. I support !mensliberation@lemmy.ca 100%.

      If you didn’t misunderstand me, men don’t need a space specifically for comparing their issues negatively against women’s issues. That space is everywhere and anywhere, as evidenced by this discussion occurring in !asklemmy@lemmy.world and collecting overwhelmingly positive upvotes.

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        Your comments here are an example of double standard.

        You are asking for men issues to stay in groups specific to that issue. Anyone who did the same for questions about women would be called a misogynist.

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          Wow, you’re really reaching there. I’m asking you to stop blaming women for men’s problems. There’s a group of people who aren’t doing that, and if you don’t want to be called a misogynist, follow the example of that group.

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            I’m asking you to stop blaming women for men’s problems.

            And yet you’re the exact type of person to blame men for women’s issues lol

            Your mental gymnastics are funny

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            Nah, this is textbook double standards.

            You are part of the problem that is stopping true equality. If men have everywhere to work through issues so you need a special place to do it, how does that end. You forever stay locked in that safe space because men own the public forum? Or do you try to fight for your spot in the public forum, attacking the only place you allowed men to work through issues? Or do you want a place in the public forum and your own space?

            So by your own logic women have their own communities and the general forum is for men, because of this post. So should women be told not to discuss their issues in general forums like Ask Lemmy and stick to their own communities? I mean these are for men right? Seems messed up to me.

            Why not just let everyone have a seat at every table? Be truly open and equal, instead of men deciding what women can have and women deciding what men can have. It’s not a hard concept.

            It’s people like you that make the divide bigger every time you fight for “equality”.

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            The incels are out in force.

            Ask them if they’re also supportive of White Pride and the KKK. Or if they’d endorse a “White Lives Matter” movement.

            • If they aren’t, then it reveals their cognitive dissonance.
            • If they are, then while they may be consistent, it also reveals they’re bigots and exposes the fallacious thinking.

            Maybe then the cognitive dissonance will be obvious.

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                    Universally every aspect from risk of being murdered to rape to domestic abuse to pregnancy/abortion — women face massive fucking challenges disproportionate to men… JUST like minorities face disproportionate challenges to my fellow white males.

                    So I’m a bit surprised when I see an argument of, “Your comments here an example of double standard” because I don’t think you’d take too keenly to saying that White Lives Matters is just as worthy of respect and having community here as Black Lives Matter … And if you do, well then I want nothing to do with you.

                    The logic underpinning these two subjects is identical. Hence the cognitive dissonance.