• shreddingitlater [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    She only said anything for optics/cover her own ass.

    There’s two possibilities here: either she really is this stupid and doesn’t realize voting to send weapons to a country like Israel means killing people, in which case she’s unfit to lead, or she knows and this is pure cynical optics, in which case she’s unfit to lead.

    Stop caping for these people, at the very least they don’t deserve your fucking brownie points for clearing a bar that’s in hell at this point.

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      When have politicians ever done something that wasn’t for optics?

      To get change requires positive reinforcement. Next time, she might go a step further. Every time she says something, some in her audience get the chance to realize that it’s not anti-semitic to condemn the killing of children.

      This is why AIPAC didn’t want any Palestinian speaking at the DNC and why they spent millions against Bowman and Bush. Because they don’t want to normalize criticism of Israel.

      That’s the current door that needs to be opened wide in the mainstream.

      To get change, critical mass is needed.

      I even applaud Candace Owens and Dan Bilzerian for speaking out, even though I don’t agree with them on anything else.

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        When have politicians ever done something that wasn’t for optics?

        Do you have any idea how much realpolitik is done with total disregard for optics, public opinion and the common good? Politics is driven by the interests of the ruling class, which in our society is the class that owns capital. Optics are the PR you tack on it afterwards when it’s convenient.

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        When have politicians ever done something that wasn’t for optics?

        I’m Spanish. A party called “Podemos” (relatively leftist) didn’t ever condemn Maduro and didn’t support the state police intervening in Catalonia during the referendum, knowing full well it was bad optics when it concerns the majority of Spanish population. Not everything is optics, there are principles.

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        If I continue being a doormat and giving them all of my body and soul despite their constant abuse, eventually they’ll realize that they love me.

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        “Positive reinforcement”??? Motherfucker, who gives a fuck if you have everyonr congratulating you for the right take or not if you have the “positive reinforcement” of bookoo bucks in campaign funds? Being anti Israel IS ALREADY MAINSTREAM. That’s the whole reason for the optics, they know its popular, but their financial interests or ideological beliefs prevent them from actually enacting any change. They will dangle these keys in front of your face until every last Palestinian is dead for all they care.

        You strike me as one of those people we’d call “deeply unserious”.

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          It’s been so long since ops politicians did anything other than wring their hands and tweet positioning statements, so long since the news covering them has reported anything other than politicians/citizen feefeez/their own opinions, i wouldn’t be surprised if op thought that was all politics actually fucking were.

          The absolute cynicism of this pennymatinee we sit thru like clockwork Orange breaks one’s goddamn mind