I always find it funny when people go through a lot of contortions to explain why they don’t want an EV. If you don’t want an EV don’t buy one. Nobody cares.
Uh, if you look at the top of the thread, blacklazor just said there are downsides to EVs in response to a post that made it sound like it’s all upside. They’re not “going through a lot of contortions”, they’re answering questions in good faith. They don’t have to have driven an EV to know it won’t work for their situation, and they detailed why.
Me, I want an EV, I just don’t have the money and I need at least 300 miles of range before having to charge. It’s not “range anxiety”, I do long road trips annually so I need to drive that far on a single charge no matter what my fuel is.
If you don’t want an EV don’t buy one.
They already said they aren’t.
Nobody cares.
The number of replies to the guy in this thread show that to be a lie.
Just curious on why you need to drive 300 miles on a single charge? Is it because you don’t wish to stop during the trip, is there no charging infrastructure along this particular route, or something else?
Unless you are born into great fortune, you have to work for 5 days out of every 7. The time in those remaining two days is extremely valuable to most people who just want to visit family/friends.
I just got back from a 1,200+ mile road trip. The first leg was 450 miles and my trip planner scheduled a 20 minute stop and a 15 minute stop. Yeah it’s a little longer than otherwise but really not much. Combine them with meals and it’s no delay at all
Edit: in an ICE car I would have made one of those stops and grabbed fast food, so the difference was 15 minutes. No big deal
Yup, I’ve had a lot of successful and pleasant long-distance EV trips as well! However they aren’t all like that because most people don’t live in a top-5 country travelling along routes as old as their country. I can’t wait until that doesn’t matter but the current infrastructure and tech just makes you sound like the kind of person that asks starving children why they chose to be born poor.
I this case I did assume US but also that most developed countries have at least as good EV infrastructure and many are much better. While half of my trip was urban areas with many more choices, the other half was rural and still not inconvenient
My guy, I live in California and even did stuff at the NUMMI factory before it made Teslas. EVs aren’t even a universal solution here yet, at the birthplace.
Like @ayyy@sh.itjust.works said, I work 5 days. This road trip is a thousand miles, at least; I have done it in a single stretch, but that would be even less possible in an EV just because of the increased charge times. I do it in two days now, which means a stop every ~250 miles, and I like a healthy ~50 mile margin of error because I don’t wanna get stranded in the desert if the battery capacity dropped without my noticing somehow.
So, four stops over two days - that’s reasonable, that’s what I’ve got with my gas car which gets me there Sunday evening if I leave Saturday morning, in time to start work Monday. More stops means I get in later and have less time to get settled, or maybe I can’t make the trip in two days at all, so no trip.
I always find it funny when people go through a lot of contortions to explain why they don’t want an EV. If you don’t want an EV don’t buy one. Nobody cares.
Uh, if you look at the top of the thread, blacklazor just said there are downsides to EVs in response to a post that made it sound like it’s all upside. They’re not “going through a lot of contortions”, they’re answering questions in good faith. They don’t have to have driven an EV to know it won’t work for their situation, and they detailed why.
Me, I want an EV, I just don’t have the money and I need at least 300 miles of range before having to charge. It’s not “range anxiety”, I do long road trips annually so I need to drive that far on a single charge no matter what my fuel is.
They already said they aren’t.
The number of replies to the guy in this thread show that to be a lie.
Just curious on why you need to drive 300 miles on a single charge? Is it because you don’t wish to stop during the trip, is there no charging infrastructure along this particular route, or something else?
Unless you are born into great fortune, you have to work for 5 days out of every 7. The time in those remaining two days is extremely valuable to most people who just want to visit family/friends.
I just got back from a 1,200+ mile road trip. The first leg was 450 miles and my trip planner scheduled a 20 minute stop and a 15 minute stop. Yeah it’s a little longer than otherwise but really not much. Combine them with meals and it’s no delay at all
Edit: in an ICE car I would have made one of those stops and grabbed fast food, so the difference was 15 minutes. No big deal
Yup, I’ve had a lot of successful and pleasant long-distance EV trips as well! However they aren’t all like that because most people don’t live in a top-5 country travelling along routes as old as their country. I can’t wait until that doesn’t matter but the current infrastructure and tech just makes you sound like the kind of person that asks starving children why they chose to be born poor.
True, I assumed a developed country.
I this case I did assume US but also that most developed countries have at least as good EV infrastructure and many are much better. While half of my trip was urban areas with many more choices, the other half was rural and still not inconvenient
My guy, I live in California and even did stuff at the NUMMI factory before it made Teslas. EVs aren’t even a universal solution here yet, at the birthplace.
Like @ayyy@sh.itjust.works said, I work 5 days. This road trip is a thousand miles, at least; I have done it in a single stretch, but that would be even less possible in an EV just because of the increased charge times. I do it in two days now, which means a stop every ~250 miles, and I like a healthy ~50 mile margin of error because I don’t wanna get stranded in the desert if the battery capacity dropped without my noticing somehow.
So, four stops over two days - that’s reasonable, that’s what I’ve got with my gas car which gets me there Sunday evening if I leave Saturday morning, in time to start work Monday. More stops means I get in later and have less time to get settled, or maybe I can’t make the trip in two days at all, so no trip.
What’s the point of writing this comment? Other than because you care about other people’s choice of vehicle?