That’s literally what they’re saying out loud now:
On being asked by Ahmad Tibi, one of the Arab MPs within the Israeli Knesset last week if it was legitimate “to insert a stick into a person’s rectum”, Hanoch Milwidsky, a member of Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud party, responded: “If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!”
Well those definitely sound like the words of a person who would decey a warcrime or six /s
I think they would argue Hamas militants are unlawful combatants (they don’t follow laws of war) and the Geneva convection doesn’t apply.
I find it funny how if you are fighting someone that doesn’t follow the laws of war you can not follow them too but you are not in violation, they are!
Especially with how little damage Hamas has been able to do in comparison to the damage the IDF has caused Palestine for decades. Like, if a child hit an adult, no matter how “unlawful” it was, if the adult drop-kicked them into next week that’d be a huge problem. Now, the only people acting like children are in the Israeli government but you get the idea.
Whoever kills an innocent is a piece of shit.
It’s basic fascist logic. Which as the GOP in the US has shown us, you don’t need to be fascist to use. “Our chosen enemy is both cowardly/weak and an existential threat at the same time.”
Republicans are fascists lmfao
The GOP are the Republicans.
Yeah but he’s saying they only use the tactics
It seems I misread the parent comment. I apologize.
Lol especially since it turned out he did think that way anyway. Gotta dance around labels, wouldn’t want Poe or Godwin or whoever to smite our souls
Eh, they aren’t quite there yet. There are definitely fascists in the party but I think the party as a whole is going to go more authoritarian theocracy. The difference being, if you play their religious game you might just avoid a concentration camp. Whereas in Fascism you are your label and that’s it. A few other big differences but mostly the same for the people on the ground.
This is the biggest hand-wring, semantic gargling I’ve ever seen. What is “authoritarian theology” but making a deity out of the control structure. Nazis used Jesus, too.
They’re facists. The fact they tried over turning the election on J6 with the fake electors proves it completely, they do not point to Jesus, they point to procedure. That’s what a fascist does. Making the Constitution into a religious text is some of the most fascist shit ever, they successfully bind the propaganda structure used to prop up the injustice to an emotional spiritual feeling of righteousness. Its fascism.
The Nazis locked up religious leaders. And if you think only Fascists can attempt coups by procedure or mob then you have a lot of history you need to go read.
Nobody here is trying to deny how horrible it would be to have either group in charge.
You begged the question of why don’t I think they’re fascists which is a political philosophy and ideology question. So yeah, without writing a 20 page paper, I think we’re cooking up something we haven’t quite seen in modern times.
I think it’s going to look a lot like what’s happening in Israel right now. Likuud has had a lot of help and mentorship from the GOP over the decades. In many ways they’ve had a freer hand to influence politics over there. And we can see they’re ranking pretty transparently. It’s Orthodox Jews, Mainstream Jews, Loyal Arabs, Palestinians. Ranking in the US is going to be based on race, then religion, then labels. Which is a different hierarchy than normal Fascism or Nazis use. So a black evangelist wouldn’t be sent to the concentration camps as long as he’s loyal. Whereas in a strict race or chosen enemy system, he’d be going to that camp.
This is what happens when you beg that question with someone who studied politics in college.
“Fascism” does not necessitate throwing people in camps and gassing Jews. By any of its classical definitions, they’ve married the concept of governmental authority and economic authority. They use a myriad of nonsense to spin narratives, and as you allude, in a new scene, nothing has to be consistent. What is consistent is their fealty to one man, and money. They’ve worked at this for a long time. I personally enjoy american civil religion as a thought point. Especially when you bring up Israel, twisted-ass nation. Is it simply “authoritarian theology” too? Russia has got to just be straight up fascist, right? Theyre literally a mob state. I see little difference between Russia and the Republican dream for America
Russia is interesting. Unless there’s aspects I’m unaware of they’re not fascist. They’re authoritarian but far more like a direct rule monarchy with a bureaucracy and a facade of democracy. Their ideology is whatever helps Putin maintain control.
And yes I used camps as a metaphor. There doesn’t need to be literal camps to oppress people.
And how if you listen to russia, Ukraine is both a marionette of the West and a secret mastermind orchestrating the worldwide conspiracy
Which hilariously is also antisemitic while also accusing them of being Nazis.
We really are the root of all evil, huh
Reminds me of 9/11 and the Iraqi war.
3,000 souls for 250,000 souls
The Iraqi war wasn’t related to 9/11 at all. It was about oil and finishing what daddy started.
Yeah, but we sure kept Saddam from nuking anyone with his many, many WMDs.
It did not start oct. 7 it started back in 1948-1947
the ends justify the means but what justifies the ends?
If I’m following OPs logic, you can bomb a country for years, invade, take their people hostage, get attacked back, not surrender, don’t negotiate and prioritize PR above the lives of your people.
When the war is over what will they have gained?
are you talking about Israel or Hamas? because damn, it’s hard to differentiate between the two terrorist organizations.
Israel was hamas all along :o
i mean, the israeli government was actually funding hamas to keep the pla from consolidating power in palestine, so…
Yes
Not sure if you’re intentionally or accidentally describing israel.
