remember when employers actually paid a living wage and didn’t exploit their employees? … oh, wait …
Yeah, me neither.
Soon no one will
cough europe cough
Tipped employees generally make way more than anything they’d realistically get on a wage but yeah counter staff gets the worst of it. Shitty wages and they have to deal with people like me who specifically ask where’s the “no tip” button on the screen
I hate how every transaction now forces me to pass monetary judgment.
I’d much rather a gratuity be pre-baked into menu prices, so I can easily make purchasing decisions that reflect my financial situation, rather than being surprised at the end.
I hardly go out to eat at all nowadays, partially due to this.
I’ve quit tipping for the most part. Unless the service was top notch. I don’t tip on payment systems either. When I do tip, I tip the person not the pay app. I get dirty looks but since some businesses have started putting it on my bill I’ve stopped. Tipping doesn’t help the person who deserves the tip. It helps the businesses avoid paying the employee a decent wage.
You aren’t helping anyone. Ask a few servers what they think about your opinion.
Neither are you. Tipping culture needs to die, and it either starts with the waitresses unionizing or something similar, or when no one tips forcing the prior to happen.
Fucking over wait staff isn’t the way to achieve that, and patting yourself on the back for doing it is despicable.
“I hate the way this business operates as it hurts their staff. So I’m going to support the business while also hurting the staff”
What kind of sick logic is that?
Fucking over the tip staff is going to happen either way. It’s just one is a swift off with the head where the other one is a slow bleed.
It’s been interesting reading this comment chain because both sides share the same ideology as seems of wanting tipped culture to go away, it’s just they have vastly different opinions of how to do so.
Myself? I hate the tip structure as well. I tip for positions that require it so dine in and hair shops basically, but I believe that if everyone stop tipping at once the impact would be far less severe for the worker overall then if people just stopped going there. This is because when people stop going to an establishment there’s no clear Direction of why they’re no longer going to the establishment, so management may not correlate that with the pay structure of the employee so instead they’re going to reduce the hours on the employee while keeping the employee on payroll. On paper this sounds like a good idea, Until you realize that the employee is going to want to go elsewhere but they’re not going to want to risk their income Source by going elsewhere, so you now have a part-time employee who wants to find a job but is running into the same issue that people who work at Walmart have where every job out there who’s hiring for part-time wanrs open availability(open to close) and instantly by having that original job you’re finding yourself lower on the application list then the person who doesn’t have a job.
by just everyone refusing to tip, it’s very clear that their objecting the Mantra of tipped culture, and it will tell the worker that if they are not happy with the minimum wage that the establishment is willing to pay, that they need to start looking elsewhere, while also not lowering that employees hours due to the fact that customers are still coming to the establishment. The only difference is the employee is now making the minimum wage and the establishment is now paying the full wage no longer being subsidized by the customer.
I believe that everyone just no longer tipping in general is better because the worker while making less an hour (assuming tips make higher than min wage) is still working full shifts while being able to look for a job on the side. Where with everyone no longer going not only is the worker making less because they’re not getting the tip money, but they’re also working less while being given a lower priority on the application list.
This only works when everyone refuses to tip. Some guy going to a restaurant, not tipping, and leaving me with the minimum of $2.13 just makes my day worse. The business does not care. That’s why I left service in the first place. I’ve had a $0 tip four times in one night before through no fault of my own (the patrons had even complimented me), but making enough to cover that minimum wage difference of only $5 an hour over the course of the week left absolutely no change for the company. A person can’t claim to have the moral high ground by refusing to tip because eventually it’ll be better that way.
They don’t care about the actual workers, just being able to claim the moral high-ground while keeping some extra cash in their pockets.
It’s disgusting.
What I find worse is when I go to a resteraunt that I went to today. It was a mexican resteraunt. And it was a sit down resteraunt. However, the food was basically fast food. This was a fast food place, better than taco bell, but maybe worse than chipotle. It was priced higher than chipotle by about 30%. And then you have to tip because its a sit down resteraunt. Except…my server took my order, and then I never saw him again. Never refilled my drink. Never came over to check if everything was ok. And it wasn’t a packed house. I was one of 5 tables, and 3 of the other tables had a different server.
Meaning, this guy had 2 tables to attend to, ignored both, someone else brought my food out, and then I sat there, waiting for the check…and he just stood at the bar, and conversed. Finally I went to the hostess table, and said “do I pay here? Orrr…” and she said “No, your server will be by with the check.”
I felt like asking “Will he though???” After like 15 more minutes he came by, meal clearly done, and he says “So, did you want another root beer?”
And then it asked for tip. Tip for what??? You pressed a few buttons on an iPad, and then ghosted the whole dinning room for 45 minutes.
And it shouldn’t be your job to reprimand them. And they shouldn’t be financially reprimanded. They should be taught better by mgmt or let go. Not on you to manage someone else’s employees or wages. Wish we would all stop tipping at the same time.
Tipping is a reward for the good service and it is optional.
Maybe originally, but now a majority of people in the service industry rely on tips cause they are paid like $3/hr
You could make a decent wage being a server without tips, but there’s legislation saying that they are going to take your proposed taxes from your paychecks before it even gets to your hand. That’s why you make $3/hr. Because the government said they’re taking their money up front. That’s why I think if you do depend on tips, you shouldn’t have to report them because then it just turns into the government double dipping. Also restaurant owners have full control to give you more pay, but they won’t because it’s cheaper for them to depend on customers to pay what they don’t want to
https://www.yourrestaurantbusiness.com/is-it-legal-to-pay-waiters-below-minimum-wage/
In America anyways.
USA™ – The default country
Seriously. USA is like the generic video game starter character before anyone’s had a chance to customise it and level up. At all. And I say that as someone who lives here.
Genuinely not my problem. If you’re not paid enough, there’s plenty of low qualification jobs out there.
Are there really, though? Especially ones that pay a wage you can live on. Those are rare, and generally already occupied by someone who isn’t leaving unless forced to.
Everyone wants to be like “oh if you don’t like it then just quit” but if every restaurant server in your city took that advice I guarantee there would be a huge stink about it. We’ve been hearing it for years already with the “nobody wants to work anymore” - no, people want to work, they need to in order to survive. Just, nobody wants to work for your shitty wages that they can’t pay for both rent and groceries with.
They can either offer a living wage or they can keep crying about it.
I genuinely don’t care what a bunch of losers complain about.
I only tip when on vacation in countries like Vietnam. Since a few euros is a lot of money there.
Anywhere else not.
