• jwiggler@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    All politicians seek to gain power and uphold the unjust, undemocratic, hierarchical power structures that constrain individual freedom – power structures that are ultimately backed by the monopolization of violence through the police.

    It’s just that one party also wants to use those structures to surveil women’s bodies, ban books, delegitimize science, push religion, and extract capital from natural resources and workers without restriction.

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      Same policies, different PR approach. Democrats didn’t codify Roe v. Wade, for example, because that would have taken away one of their main selling points. Best you can do is vote different in each election so they have it harder to form a coherent strategy.

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      If you can’t even draw the line at enabling a genocide, there’s no point having a discussion with you.

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            5 months ago

            Again, what do you want me to do? Obviously if I could choose someone who would impart a weapons embargo and trade sanctions against Israel, I would. But the choices I have in front of me are a person who, while publicly calling for a ceasefire, sends weapons to an apartheid state that is currently genociding the Palestinian people, and another who will not only certainly still send weapons to that state, but also strengthen ties with it, and urge them to “finish the job.” Do you want me to stay home, and give the latter option a better chance of winning?

            edit: Like idk who’s out here praising Kamala Harris and the rest of the Democratic party for their soft-as-shit stance on Israel, but I still gonna vote for her, because Trump and Republicans wouldn’t only be worse for the Palestinian people, they’d be worse for the US

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              Go sign up for an org like PSL, organize your community. Educate people. Go read up on how the MAS movement in Bolivia started.

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                Dude, if this was your way to try to educate and get people to organize, you’ve gotta do way better. I’m sorry. You can’t essentially accuse folks of supporting genocide and then turn around and try to convert them to Communism lol

                You gotta meet them where they are and introduce it softly to them. They’re not going to understand your anger toward the state for all it’s injustices, because they haven’t seen them yet. You’re fuckin scaring em off

                Besides, I’m not gonna join a political party that is ultimately going to be just another top down hierarchical structure. I’d prefer the decision making in my commune to be bottom-up.

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                  The party you’re voting for is committing a literal genocide in which many thousands of people have been massacred already. You have absolutely no shame. There is no educating people like you.

                  Besides, I’m not gonna join a political party that is ultimately going to be just another top down hierarchical structure. I’d prefer the decision making in my commune to be bottom-up.

                  What you’re really saying there is that you prefer people who do genocide to continue to hold power while you fantasize about your utopia.

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                    What the fuck are you on about? What do you want me to do? Dissolve the state myself?

                    I’m fucking communist already, just not your hierarchical brand. But I’m still gonna vote, because the US can still swing further to the right.

                    How do you expect to get people on your side if you say shit like

                    You have absolutely no shame. There is no educating people like you.

                    Jesus.