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            That’s exactly why the number of farmers keeps reducing under capitalism. In socialism, you can get to democratically decide how much people are paid depending on the actual needs of the economy.

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          300 years ago, people were forced to farm for a lord.

          So are you suggesting a return to feudalism?

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            No, mate, I’m obviously not suggesting a return to feudalism. I’m suggesting that if humanity needs more people allocated in agriculture, it should allocate more people in agriculture.

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              Allocate? People should be forced to farm?

              You’re right, that’s not feudalism, that’s slavery.

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                Allocate doesn’t have to be through violence, it can be through incentive. If farmers made twice as much as stock traders and worked 30h a week there would be plenty more.

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                  It was already established at the beginning of this conversation by the person who started this chain that everyone would have equal pay.

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        Then there’s a problem. However we somehow manage to employ a few billion people currently.

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          Those few billion people are currently not paid the same as an accountant to do much more demanding work.

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            We’re talking about food production.

            I misunderstood you. Have more people doing farm work, that way we have enough food and individual farmers don’t have to work so hard

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              But what if you can’t find enough people to do farm work? A lot of people work on farms now because they don’t have much of a choice. And if you could do easier work but be paid the same as you would on a farm, why not take advantage of that?

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                We already have people working lots of hours doing jobs they might not want to do.

                The question was could we reduce the number of hours people work and still have enough food