ASHLAND — Twenty-six Amish who refused to pay their fines for violating a law that requires flashing lights on their buggies appeared in court on Friday.

Once there, Ashland Municipal Court Judge John Good ruled out the possibility of jail time for them and instead said he would impose liens on their real estate.

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    5 months ago

    No. I live in PA, and we have a similar law. I remember before it was passed, and seeing buggies with just the reflectors.

    Close up, directly in front of lights, you can see reflectors fine, but your lights aren’t always pointing at them. Maybe it’s a curve or a hill, maybe they are approaching an intersection, but flashing lights can be seen from all angles.

    Also, most Amish have no problem using modern technology when required. It’s not like a pathological fear, it’s a religious devotion to self-reliance. They use cell phones and power tools when they need to, and they hire “English” (non-Amish) to drive them in cars. Some are more insular than others, and they rarely get involved in politics, so they mostly just do whatever is required.

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      Maybe it’s a curve or a hill, maybe they are approaching an intersection, but flashing lights can be seen from all angles.

      Note that this law requires Amish use lights even in daytime, which won’t be visible around a bend or hill at such times. What’s next…telling bikes/peds they also have to go around wearing daytime strobe lights?

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        Bikes should have daytime strobes and headlamps. Cars should always have their headlights on. Visibility reduces accidents.

        You can be on a curved road or a hill and have vehicles you can see that are not within your headlight beams. Further, if a vehicle is obstructed by a curve or hill, you may see lights illuminate the dark ahead of you before the vehicle comes into view.

        There’s no reason not to have lights on vehicles on the road.

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          Bikes should have daytime strobes and headlamps. Cars should always have their headlights on. Visibility reduces accidents.

          This is so utterly car brained. Bicycles and Amish buggies aren’t even remotely the ones making the danger here. Are we going to require stupid flashing beacons on pedestrians now to?? No, the solution here is a road diet, traffic calming, speed governors on SUVs, and modal separation.

          There’s no reason not to have lights on vehicles on the road.

          Because it costs money to run lights, and good lights cost money. (https://www.bumm.de/en/products/akku-scheinwerfer/parent/1922/produkt/1922qmla.html)

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        5 months ago

        I honestly can’t tell if this is sarcasm since motorcycles and cars in the US have required daytime running lights for a couple decades.

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            Daytime running lights are required on large sections of the highway in Alaska. It’s posted on signs on the road and you can get ticketed for it.

            “( c ) Every vehicle traveling on a highway or vehicular way or area must illuminate lights when traveling on any roadway that is posted with signs requiring the use of headlights.

            (d) For the purposes of ( c ) of this section, lights include low intensity headlights and daytime running lamp devices…”

            https://dot.alaska.gov/stwdplng/hwysafety/headlights.shtml

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              Daytime running lights are required on large sections of the highway in Alaska

              Wow, totally not being misleading here. /s The place we’re talking about is in the lower 48 smart guy.

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                4 months ago

                I was responding to a previous comment that said “Nowhere in the US.” Alaska is still the United States.