I’m religious and conservative, and you saying I’m a nazi solely because of those qualities only hurts our nation. It doesn’t make the reasonable conservatives want to discuss and come to conclusions on todays issues with people that think we’re synonymous with possibly the most evil movement in world history.
Where? I live in washington, I go on reddit/lemmy now for my social media.
The people I interact with that have extreme views are y’all calling 30% of US voters literal nazi’s.
Do you truly think we have some 30 million + people that are nazi’s, share nazi ideals and nazi culture?
I can’t affect how the very small minority of republicans that are alt right, or actually are nazi’s, behave. I can try to communicate with the people calling everyone that I interact with that most of us are disgusted by the extreme minority on the far right, too.
People are calling them Nazis because they support fascism.
Ask any republican if they’d rather live in a democratic society that is communist or a fascist one that is capitalist and all of them will say they prefer fascism.
They also support religious nationalism and governing based on emotions rather than logic and reason.
There are many parallels between republicans and Nazis. This is why the overwhelming majority of neo-nazis are conservative.
Me: “Do you truly think we have some 30 million + people that are nazi’s, share nazi ideals and nazi culture?”
You: “People are calling them Nazis because they support fascism.”
Me: “That’s as wild as saying every single liberal supports communism.”
I read it and this is what I saw.
Also, to correct your previous statement where you said “Ask any republican if they’d rather live in a democratic society that is communist or a fascist one that is capitalist and all of them will say they prefer fascism.”
No, any republican that’s a conservative wouldn’t say a fascist one, a fascist government is inherently against conservative political ideologies. Fascism needs authoritarianism, which is opposite of a small government. Communism requires heavy government involvement and nationalization of industries, which is more of what the progressive left is advocating for.
The people you are supporting and voting for have openly called for violence and death to be visited upon myself and my family simply because of who we are andwho we love.
The GOP is a ship, and you are voluntarily on that, working to help that ship, the people steering that ship, setting it’s direction, aiming it’s guns, they are literally fascists, bigots, and often literal nazis. You work on that ship, do you not see why you are seen as one of them irregardless of weather or not you directly believe such hateful things?
Get off that ship, you can still be a “conservative” but you have to stop supporting those people or you are one of them.
I’m not going to go well into the details because it’s getting off the point but as a few examples:
“A Republican candidate running for a seat in Oklahoma’s state House once said it is ‘totally just’ to kill gay people in comments that have resurfaced amid his campaign.”
“The Trump-endorsed Republican candidate in South Carolina’s4th Congressional District called for the arrest and execution of those who advocate for LGBTQ+ rights and the protection of trans children.”
former Republican state representative Robert Foster: “I think they need to be lined up against [a] wall before a firing squad to be sent to an early judgment.”
There are plenty more out there like this, and an absolute avalanche of them couched in the standard political double speak and dog whistles that we are all used to.
Now I’m sure you PERSONALLY did not vote for any of these people directly, but these are the representatives of the GOP, this is what I mean by you being on the ship with them. You may not be the person steering the ship, or loading the guns, or pulling the trigger, but you are on the ship advocating for violence and murder, passing laws that are leading to death and suffer and pushing to make more of them. You are saying that because you are swabbing the deck and cooking the meals you don’t deserve to be lumped in with nazis who are running the ship.
“A Republican candidate running for a seat in Oklahoma’s state House once said it is ‘totally just’ to kill gay people in comments that have resurfaced amid his campaign.”
I didn’t vote for him/her
“The Trump-endorsed Republican candidate in South Carolina’s4th Congressional District called for the arrest and execution of those who advocate for LGBTQ+ rights and the protection of trans children.”
Nor him/her
former Republican state representative Robert Foster: “I think they need to be lined up against [a] wall before a firing squad to be sent to an early judgment.”
I didn’t vote for him.
but these are the representatives of the GOP,
These are the representatives some people in a different state than mine voted for. I am not responsible for their votes, just as you aren’t responsible for my city council voting in a self proclaimed communist.
I didn’t vote for one of these individuals you are picking out, I don’t know any of the individuals, haven’t donated to any of the individuals campaigns or spread good words about them.
How am I responsible for who Oklahoma folks vote?
Get off the ship.
Your thinking is the big problem with the US. You think there are two ships that everyone has to choose between them. There aren’t. I’m not on a ship, I vote for candidates that I think reflect my opinions more than the other side. I wish I had more options, better options, but I don’t. I just vote for who I think is best for my city/county/state/country given the options I have.
Stop thinking everyone needs to fully belong to one ‘ship.’
So you literally ignored what I had to say entirely.
You are voting for that party, you are voting to support these people, you are voting to support these agendas, agendas that are meant to take away rights and hurt or criminalize or murder people. You might as well say “Well I don’t agree with Hitler at all, I vote Nazi because of their economic policies”
So I guess the real question is, do you agree with these positions? Do you want gay and trans people to be eliminated from society? Do you want women to be forced to give birth to headless fetuses even if it kills them? Cause if the answer is yes, then you are voting the right party! And they are fucking monsters!
Otherwise I’m starting to think you are just trolling and don’t actually have an interest in considering why people keep “lumping you in” with Nazis (I guess voting for them isn’t enough).
Trump called Nazi’s “very fine people”, literal Nazi’s from the Nazi rally where one of them ran over some counter protesters with their car killing a young woman, the one in North Carolina a while back.
"Trump later stated (in the same statement) that “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally–but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists”
I’m religious and conservative, and you saying I’m a nazi solely because of those qualities only hurts our nation. It doesn’t make the reasonable conservatives want to discuss and come to conclusions on todays issues with people that think we’re synonymous with possibly the most evil movement in world history.
We’re not the people you need to be discussing with. You need to be discussing with the other conservative and religious people who are actual nazis.
Where? I live in washington, I go on reddit/lemmy now for my social media.
The people I interact with that have extreme views are y’all calling 30% of US voters literal nazi’s.
Do you truly think we have some 30 million + people that are nazi’s, share nazi ideals and nazi culture?
I can’t affect how the very small minority of republicans that are alt right, or actually are nazi’s, behave. I can try to communicate with the people calling everyone that I interact with that most of us are disgusted by the extreme minority on the far right, too.
People are calling them Nazis because they support fascism.
Ask any republican if they’d rather live in a democratic society that is communist or a fascist one that is capitalist and all of them will say they prefer fascism.
They also support religious nationalism and governing based on emotions rather than logic and reason.
There are many parallels between republicans and Nazis. This is why the overwhelming majority of neo-nazis are conservative.
Every single conservative supports fascism?
That’s as wild as saying every single liberal supports communism.
Re-read what I said then try again.
Me: “Do you truly think we have some 30 million + people that are nazi’s, share nazi ideals and nazi culture?”
You: “People are calling them Nazis because they support fascism.”
Me: “That’s as wild as saying every single liberal supports communism.”
I read it and this is what I saw.
Also, to correct your previous statement where you said “Ask any republican if they’d rather live in a democratic society that is communist or a fascist one that is capitalist and all of them will say they prefer fascism.”
No, any republican that’s a conservative wouldn’t say a fascist one, a fascist government is inherently against conservative political ideologies. Fascism needs authoritarianism, which is opposite of a small government. Communism requires heavy government involvement and nationalization of industries, which is more of what the progressive left is advocating for.
The people you are supporting and voting for have openly called for violence and death to be visited upon myself and my family simply because of who we are andwho we love.
The GOP is a ship, and you are voluntarily on that, working to help that ship, the people steering that ship, setting it’s direction, aiming it’s guns, they are literally fascists, bigots, and often literal nazis. You work on that ship, do you not see why you are seen as one of them irregardless of weather or not you directly believe such hateful things?
Get off that ship, you can still be a “conservative” but you have to stop supporting those people or you are one of them.
Which person have I supported and voted for has openly called for violence?
I’m not going to go well into the details because it’s getting off the point but as a few examples:
“A Republican candidate running for a seat in Oklahoma’s state House once said it is ‘totally just’ to kill gay people in comments that have resurfaced amid his campaign.”
“The Trump-endorsed Republican candidate in South Carolina’s4th Congressional District called for the arrest and execution of those who advocate for LGBTQ+ rights and the protection of trans children.”
former Republican state representative Robert Foster: “I think they need to be lined up against [a] wall before a firing squad to be sent to an early judgment.”
There are plenty more out there like this, and an absolute avalanche of them couched in the standard political double speak and dog whistles that we are all used to.
Now I’m sure you PERSONALLY did not vote for any of these people directly, but these are the representatives of the GOP, this is what I mean by you being on the ship with them. You may not be the person steering the ship, or loading the guns, or pulling the trigger, but you are on the ship advocating for violence and murder, passing laws that are leading to death and suffer and pushing to make more of them. You are saying that because you are swabbing the deck and cooking the meals you don’t deserve to be lumped in with nazis who are running the ship.
Get off the ship.
I didn’t vote for him/her
Nor him/her
I didn’t vote for him.
These are the representatives some people in a different state than mine voted for. I am not responsible for their votes, just as you aren’t responsible for my city council voting in a self proclaimed communist.
I didn’t vote for one of these individuals you are picking out, I don’t know any of the individuals, haven’t donated to any of the individuals campaigns or spread good words about them.
How am I responsible for who Oklahoma folks vote?
Your thinking is the big problem with the US. You think there are two ships that everyone has to choose between them. There aren’t. I’m not on a ship, I vote for candidates that I think reflect my opinions more than the other side. I wish I had more options, better options, but I don’t. I just vote for who I think is best for my city/county/state/country given the options I have.
Stop thinking everyone needs to fully belong to one ‘ship.’
So you literally ignored what I had to say entirely.
You are voting for that party, you are voting to support these people, you are voting to support these agendas, agendas that are meant to take away rights and hurt or criminalize or murder people. You might as well say “Well I don’t agree with Hitler at all, I vote Nazi because of their economic policies”
So I guess the real question is, do you agree with these positions? Do you want gay and trans people to be eliminated from society? Do you want women to be forced to give birth to headless fetuses even if it kills them? Cause if the answer is yes, then you are voting the right party! And they are fucking monsters!
Otherwise I’m starting to think you are just trolling and don’t actually have an interest in considering why people keep “lumping you in” with Nazis (I guess voting for them isn’t enough).
I read it and showed where you were wrong. You haven’t responded to my questions.
I don’t vote for parties.
If you’d like me to answer your questions, please answer mine.
If you’d like me to answer your questions, please answer mine.
If you’d like me to answer your questions, please answer mine.
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Which one of my disgusting representatives are calling Nazi’s fine people?
Based on your username, you have opinions. You know who else had opinions? Nazi’s. You must be a Nazi.
Trump called Nazi’s “very fine people”, literal Nazi’s from the Nazi rally where one of them ran over some counter protesters with their car killing a young woman, the one in North Carolina a while back.
Can you give me the quote where trump called Nazi’s ‘very fine people’? I did not see that.
https://youtu.be/IxA7sCmIBjg
"Trump later stated (in the same statement) that “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally–but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
Pretty clear given the context and his statements, he wasn’t refering to nazi’s
No, it’s very clear that he was.
Homie, there are plenty of reasons to hate Trump. You don’t gotta make up context, ignoring real context and what he actually said to trash him.