• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    The greatest proof we have that the United States was the First Nation to land a man on the moon and did so in July of 1969 is that their primary geopolitical enemy had beaten them at every previous step in the space race and didn’t contest it. If there was a chance that any aspect of it was faked the USSR would’ve used it as propaganda and a cudgel. Instead they confirmed the moon landing. It may be hard for some people to believe we set foot on the moon, but it’s much harder to believe the ussr covered America’s ass on this one.

    It’s actually the same basic evidence that we have that Yuri Gagarin was the first human to go into outer space alive and return alive. If it hadn’t happened the United States would’ve contested it.

    • yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 months ago

      imo, that’s why flat earth stuff usually doesn’t make sense at its core. how do you explain that all those governments from around the world that hate each other all collectively agreed to lie to you

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      Okay, just to go full conspiracy theorist on you for a second:

      The USSR could’ve covered USA’s ass on this because their own achievements were fake too, and they didn’t want it to come out

      I don’t have any evidence for this, nor do I believe it myself, but just playing devil’s advocate here

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        That doesnt work in the long term unless you kill everyone that knows about it. Its a weak plan at best.

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          Oh that’s definitely true, but that could be said for literally every conspiracy theory, ever.

          My comment was working on the assumption that you already believe in conspiracy theories, and was meant to explain how one could then rationalize this particular one

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            2 months ago

            Well assume I do and that was my response. I’m sure thats not all it takes to convince someone a conspiracy isn’t true.

            How do conspiracy folk answer that counterpoint?

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      3 months ago

      But instead they both lie about the roundness of the world because reasons. Something something firmament