• Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Zionists are ethno-Fascists - Fascism linked to ethnicity rather than the nationalism of traditional Fascism - complete with things like ethnic superiority beliefs (and a general belief in some ethnicities being ubermensch and others untermensch), accusing critics of that Fascism of being against the ethnicity and surrounding themselves with the symbology related to the ethnicity.

    It’s the same kind of Fascism as the NAZIS - who claimed to represent the Arian Race - had, complete with rabid racism and inhuman levels of murderous behavior against members of ethnicities deemed untermensch (who Zionists literally call “human animals”) and not at all the same kind of Fascism as, say, Mussolini (in Italy) or Franco (in Spain).

    Zionism is far closer to NAZIsm than any other ideology, including all other Fascist ideologies, and their words and actions reflect that, so calling them NAZIs as a shortcut makes sense because that’s pretty much what they are, with the main difference being the ethnicity they claim to represent.

    Sure, you can say they haven’t committed a Holocaust and the NAZIs did, but then again the NAZIs too didn’t start by committing a Holocaust - that only came later because nobody stood up against them until it was too late, exactly the same as being done with regards to the Zionists.

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      4 months ago

      What the Israelis are doing to Gaza is pretty damn close to a Holocaust.

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      Cool story still not nazis though and its still antisemitic to call Jewish people nazis, due to the specific nature of nazis.

      If anyone actaully cared about the words meaning and wanted to further the cause of palestinians, instead of just being antisemitic, they would simply adjust to using a term that won’t ensure everything they say afterwards is dismissed by the vast majority of society.

      What you described is facsism and hallmarks of all fascism and none of the things that made nazis nazis, instead of regular facsists. The problem is, you don’t know the difference and you’ve presumed no one else does either. So you tried to blag it instead.

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        4 months ago

        Ah, the good old “anti-semitic” slander from somebody making claims in the name of all Jews in order to defense the Neue NAZIs.

        Such a wonderful illustration of the point In was making!

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          I mean, calling Jewish people nazis is literally in the definition of antisemitism. I know you’re not very good with words and their meanings but, to the resr of the world, the meaning of words is actually important.

          I mean, a anyone has to do is call them fascsists which is still an insult to any decent person.

          Why do you have to call them something that is universally known to be an antisemitic thing to xa them when you can achieve the same aims without the antisemitism?

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            4 months ago

            Believe what you want to believe and may it chase you as you deserve every night.

            But keep your goalpost moving grubby mitts from the idea you know words or are any good with them.

            Being disingenuous is piss easy and transparent, cool the back patting.

            Learn to read what others comment, so that at least you can keep consistency if you’re gonna clutter public forums with your drivel.

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              OK, so, again, why do you HAVE to use that word? Why couldn’t you use a different one?

              At least have the bottle to answer what you’re asked, instead of ducking it. Grow a spine and let everyone know.

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            It’s “literally” not.

            There is no special property of people from the Jewish ethnicity that makes them any less capable or any more capable of the kind of evil and the kind of thinking that the NAZIs had and practiced.

            Also there have even been Jewish Holocaust Survivors who compared the actions of Israel (so, of many of its people and decision-makers in its government, all of whom are “Jewish people”) to those of the NAZIs.

            Your definition of anti-semitism, which you are parroting in the name of all Jews no less, slanders even some Jewish Holocaust Survivors as “anti-semites”.

            It takes an extraordinary amount of interiorisation of racism to parrot a definition of anti-semitism that not only implies that Jews are differently capable of certain ways of thinking and acting (and hence that they are different from other people), it even classifies some Jews, including some Jewish Holocaust Survivors, as anti-semite.