A record number of athletes openly identifying as LGBTQ+ are competing in the 2024 Paris Olympics, a massive leap during a competition that organizers have pushed to center around inclusion and diversity.

There are 191 athletes publicly saying they are gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer and nonbinary who are participating in the Games, according to Outsports, an organization that compiles a database of openly queer Olympians. The vast majority of the athletes are women.

That number has quashed the previous record of 186 out athletes counted at the COVID-19-delayed Tokyo Olympics held in 2021, and the count is only expected to grow at future Olympics.

“More and more people are coming out,” said Jim Buzinski, co-founder of Outsports. “They realize it’s important to be visible because there’s no other way to get representation.”

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    You said it is “an accepted definition” for both, but that there are exceptions, which is not scientific. Definitions do not have exceptions in science. If the definition is not universal, the definition is thrown out and a new one is found. That’s how science works.

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      4 months ago

      but that there are exceptions, which is not scientific

      Why would you say that? How do you define “scientific”? Might you be conflating it with some pure form of science, like mathematics or pure logic?

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        I’m sorry, if you think “exception to the rule” is a thing in science, you really don’t understand science.

        That’s like saying there’s an “exception to the rule” of the first law of thermodynamics. There just isn’t because there can’t be. If there was, we would have to redefine that law of thermodynamics.

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          Would you say that biology is not a science? Is your point that if a theory has exceptions, it needs to be replaced with a better theory?

          I’m not absolutely certain as it’s not exactly my main area of study, but I think nature and biology don’t fit 100% well into such thinking.

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            Is your point that if a theory has exceptions, it needs to be replaced with a better theory?

            Yes, that is literally how science works. Are you really not aware of that?

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              Ok, so how would you reconcile these two things into one better theory:

              • males have smaller gametes
              • females have larger gametes
              • there are some (about 1%) exceptions to the above two

              Do you throw it all away because of that 1%?

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                Yes. Yes you do. Just like you would if 1% of the matter in the universe violated the first law of thermodynamics.

                I’m sorry, I’m not going to continue explaining very basic concepts of science to you.

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                  Yes. Yes you do. Just like you would if 1% of the matter in the universe violated the first law of thermodynamics.

                  I’m sorry, I’m not going to continue explaining very basic concepts of science to you.

                  Well, you failed trying to convince me you have any idea what you’re talking about, but at least you succeeded in emphasizing a stereotype. Have a nice day.

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                    I have no idea what stereotype you’re talking about unless you think I’m stereotyping people who don’t understand the scientific method.