• krashmo@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Real problems are often used as convenient excuses to justify laziness. At the end of the day it’s your job as a citizen to do whatever it takes to vote. If you want it to be easier then jump through the hoops that currently exist to vote for the only party offering a way to remove some of them. If you don’t vote at all then your opinion is irrelevant. That’s the reality of the world we live in.

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      real world problems are the first words in your response; but it seems that you ignore them.

      if the choice comes down to voting or pissing off your employer to take off to go vote; it’s a real world problem and you’re going to stay at work.

      if the choice comes down to commuting home and make dinner for your kids or spending hours in line in a place like houston to go vote; it’s a real world problem and you’re going to go home to make that dinner.

      i suspected that laziness was the knee jerk reaction that people had when it came to voter suppression and you’re coming from lemmy.world so that tracks and explains why republicans win elections despite there being so much fewer of them than democrats when democrats also don’t give a fuck.

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        It took you a lot of words to say “but sometimes it can be hard to vote”. We all know that, but it’s still your job as a citizen to overcome those obstacles. If you don’t figure out a way to do so then it’s only going to get worse. You can call that mean or apathetic or whatever other descriptor you like but it isn’t going to change the situation. Voting could though.

        I’m not sure what that weird instance gatekeeping rant was about. Seems like the whinging of the terminally online to me but maybe I’m missing something.

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          the entirety of my response is summed up by practicing empathy for other people and it’s clear you lack that empathy from your response.

          i recommend that you give empathy a try to help dislodge your callousness so that things can improve for humanity.

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            This isn’t the god damn care bears. Empathy is not going to fix this problem. Voting is the only thing that will. If pointing that out makes me an asshole then I’ll happily accept that label. It’s better than whatever fatalistic psychotherapeutic nonsense you’re trying to peddle. Actions solve problems, not good vibes. Pull your head out of your ass.

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              empathy is just the start; it’ll help you realize why things are fucked and you can take meaningful action from there.

              i used to be like you and it wasn’t until the anti-gay, anti-immigrant and anti-student laws fucked my life hard that i developed that sense of empathy that i’m imploring you to develop before things get worse for all of us.

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                Empathy is not the important bit, the action is. That’s what I’m talking about but you’re just virtue signaling.

                To illustrate the point I’ll concede to your argument. Empathizing with people who have trouble voting is step one of fixing the problem. Great, now what’s step two? Tell me it’s not finding a way to get people to vote to change the system that’s disenfranchising them, which is exactly what I’ve been saying. You’re getting stuck on how people feel about things when that’s a secondary issue at best.

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          I mean, your view is fucked, but they come from .ml so I wouldn’t put much into their gatekeeping

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            OK, but what’s the alternative? All I see is people making excuses for doing nothing and I don’t see how that helps anything. People need to vote in spite of the difficulties, not feel better about not voting because it’s not as easy as it should be.

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                  You are just telling people to get over it. It isn’t productive, yet you are requesting a productive response

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                    You don’t know how to read without injecting your own bullshit into the material