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    Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

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        … Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

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          Perhaps, but they’d do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. – this is the problem.

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          They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.

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        Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.

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          If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.

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                The Houthis are a Zaydi Shiite movement that has been fighting Yemen’s Sunni-majority government since 2004. They reside in Yemen, so they have no land, and they are governed by Yemen. Therefore they are a faction, not a nation.

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                  I was referring to your requirements for being a state. Even in your explanation you state that they have no land, therefore no mailing address, so thats why they are not a nation.

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                    Ownership of land with agreed-upon borders defines a country. A nation needs to govern its land, but does not necessarily have permanent agreed-upon borders. That’s why Palestine is a nation, but not a country, for example.

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              Cute of you to site international law in favour of country that shits on international law after it got its UN approval.

              Gtfo

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                You’re heavily projecting. I’m not defending Israel, nor do I support what they’ve done to Palestinians. I’m sharing cited factual information about the legal difference between a group, nation, and country. My opinion didn’t even enter the conversation until you incorrectly assumed what it was.

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                  And I am clarifying to you that Israel doesn’t recognize any such laws so they don’t get any benefit of them.

                  It is an illegal colonization program conducted at a gun point with forced removals and genocide.

                  So we are all clear here.