• Fugtig Fisk@feddit.dk
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    5 个月前

    The problem with the Israeli attacks i gaza is not the attacks themselves. Israel should have the right to defend themselves on all sides.

    The problem is, that in Palestine they are using this as an excuse to kill as many civilians as they can get away with. This is genocide. They are more or less regulating the population of Palestine, and arguing that they in reality are fighting Hamas. The civilians are unfortunate accidents (that more or less keep on happening day in and day out)

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      5 个月前

      Because cowering behind civilians in the hopes their deaths garner sympathy is totally not in the terrorist handbook

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            I do not support Israel.

            But if you’re referring to Hamas, I don’t support them either; as I clearly said I don’t support the killing of innocent people. Even if that is in response to the murder of innocent people.

            Hamas suck, As does the Israeli government and anybody that supports their actions over the last 9/10 months and even longer than that to be honest.

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              Hamas suck

              See, you’re doing it again. No, Hamas doesn’t just ‘suck’. It’s this false equivalence BS that has my ire. Hamas… are. literal. terrorists. and that is not in dispute by anyone worth listening to. Hamas as a strategy kill, rape, torture, and take hostage anyone they can get their evil fucking hands on. Israel wants to just exist but have been putting up with the afforementioned terrorism for 80 years. So they got a little Nietzschian. Israel is sick of it. I would be too if I was in their shoes.

              That’s the difference. They have a right to exist and I support that unequivocally. Are they perfect? Of course not. Would they be as hostile to Palestinians as they are had Terrorism Incorporated not made every minute of the last 80 years constant jeopardy? Um probably not. Is this a genocide? Not yet, but it could be if team Hamas doesn’t smarten up and say ‘hey now maybe peaceful solutions are a good idea’. Until then, Fuck Hamas and their putting civilians lives in jeopardy with their stubbornness.

              If and when they surrender and release the hostages Israel continues this assault then yeah. They the baddies. Right now they are just getting their hands dirtier than you, sitting comfortably in your a/c sipping a latte somewhere else, would prefer protecting themselves.

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                So you don’t see how Israelis settlers make life unlivable for Palestinians? Or that Israel has taken more and more territory over the last 8 decades?

                You seem to only want to shit on the terrorists Hamas and find issue with my choice of words, and not address any critique of Israel at all. That get my ire, the fact that people will focus on Hamas.

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                  Doesn’t justify terrorism or warcrimes.

                  Edit: I will sit down and commiserate with you on the shit show from both sides for the last 80 years, but those issues should have been dealt with in the past and are not a justification for the present.

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                    It doesn’t and Israel should stop committing them, as should Hamas.

                    All Israel are doing is ensuring the next wave of Hamas conscripts.

                    Who decides when we the statute of limitations is up on past transgressions of Israel?

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            Sorry Huttis. Didn’t mean to offend you.

            Yes you did. Though I’m not offended, I’m just letting you know you’re unwanted.

            Please don’t bomb some random innocent in my stead.

            Again, fuck off. You’re a terrorist mouth piece, you make this community worse. Please go somewhere else.

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              no no. You’re the terrorist mouthpiece. I’m the one supporting a government just trying to protect its citizens from rampant murders/hostage takers.