• davidagain@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Even if your points were correct, it’s an absurd conclusion to draw: voting mighn’t keep them out of power in the long so don’t try now? How stupid is that advice? Very.

    No, this is historically inaaccurate, hilariously so. The Nazis took power without being elected.

    The Nazi party came to hold the reigns of government by winning the largest number of seats in a parliamentary election. (In Europe coalition government is more common than in the USA.) No power, no regime.

    that just kicks the problem down the road

    For four years. Better than allowing it to happen this year!

    Maybe we can kick the can down the road long enough for the Republican party to realise that cristofascism isn’t popular and if they want power ever again they’d better drop it.

    What do the fascists want? People who care to stay home on election day or vote for everyone except the one that beat trump last time. What are you advocating? The same course of action. Literally the same.

    I’m actually suggesting organizing, touching grass…

    Blah blah blah, but putting a mark in the box that matters is too much for you. Got it. Very sincere antifascist. /s

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      Even if your points were correct, it’s an absurd conclusion to draw: voting mighn’t keep them out of power in the long so don’t try now? How stupid is that advice? Very.

      I am correct, historically. Either way, you’re voting for fascism slowly, rather than fascism rapidly. Why does that keep them out of power if it happens regardless?

      The Nazi party came to hold the reigns of government by winning the largest number of seats in a parliamentary election. (In Europe coalition government is more common than in the USA.) No power, no regime.

      Yes, the people voted against the Nazis and the liberals sided with the Nazis against the Leftists with electoral shenanigans, regardless of what the people wanted. You’re proving my point.

      For four years. Better than allowing it to happen this year!

      Nope, fascism is gaining in power under Biden, the rate of increase slows. There isn’t a binary Not Fascist/Fascist switch with Biden/Trump, fascism is gaining regardless. America isn’t determined solely by the President.

      Maybe we can kick the can down the road long enough for the Republican party to realise that cristofascism isn’t popular and if they want power ever again they’d better drop it.

      It is popular, and continues to get more popular. This is why Liberals like yourself never manage to beat out fascists, you don’t understand why it’s appealing to desparate petite-bourgeoisie.

      What do the fascists want? People who care to stay home on election day or vote for everyone except the one that beat trump last time. What are you advocating? The same course of action. Literally the same.

      Fascists literally do not care what you or I do, they will continue to win locally unless leftists organize against them while Liberals cry for “civility.”

      Blah blah blah, but putting a mark in the box that matters is too much for you. Got it. Very sincere antifascist. /s

      You should read a book, any book. I think reading things might help you think more clearly.

      Voting for slow fascism or fast fascism still results in fascism. How do you stop fascism from being on the ballot? Strongly worded letters?

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        4 months ago

        Fascists literally do not care what you or I do, they will continue to win locally unless leftists organize against them while Liberals cry for “civility.”

        Fascists want trump elected and they care passionately that anyone that doesn’t share their ideals doesn’t vote so they can win.

        I’m not even a liberal. I just live in the real world that you theoretically care about, but absolutely not as far as putting a mark in a box.

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          Fascists want trump elected and they care passionately that anyone that doesn’t share their ideals doesn’t vote so they can win.

          Fascists are also okay with Biden getting elected. Fascists support Biden as well, even if they prefer Trump.

          I’m not even a liberal. I just live in the real world that you theoretically care about, but absolutely not as far as putting a mark in a box.

          You aren’t a liberal, you just support liberals and liberalism, and condemn leftism and leftists for opposing it and fascism. Got it.

          Secondly, I already said I will vote, but as it stands both the Democrats and Republicans service fascism and fascists, ergo I have to go outside that binary to hope to stop fascism.