• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    That includes rules. You guys want to ignore an entire part of the definition of the word.

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      4 months ago

      Like the background checks and waiting periods already put onto gun purchases. No point in age restricting them to 21 as well until the government declares it to be the new adulthood age.

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        4 months ago

        Oh so now rules are okay under the 2nd amendment, you just don’t like them?

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          They aren’t, I was making a point that the well regulated in your context is being met, but shall not be infringed means not denying it to legal adults due to age.

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            4 months ago

            So why can’t the militia put an age floor in? What’s different about that rule as opposed to background checks?

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              4 months ago

              As currently interpreted under law. A militia can be anyone legally able to aquire a firearm under federal law. Therefore, this person can start a one man militia and aquire a firearm.

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                That’s not how US law works. The Supreme Court wants us to believe we’re all the militia, so that means we can all flounce around with our boom toys and if ten people get shot then it’s just an unavoidable tragedy.

                Trying to spin the rulings to something that would be more rational isn’t an honest conversation.

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                  That’s the current ruling, like it or not, if this ruling were to change, it would be easily circumvented and possibly incite major demonstrations and possible congressional action. Like it or not, there are guns in America.

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                    That’s not true. This spate of rulings is extremely recent. In the last decade or so. We went 200 years without them and no major demonstrations, except at the NRA convention when it was captured by the gun lobby and began pushing this rhetoric. Nobody’s marched on D.C. for their gun rights, like they have for civil rights. In fact these rulings are deeply unpopular in polling. And as we’ve seen recently, “SCOTUS said” isn’t a source of authority anymore. Especially not since they straight up lied about colonial era gun laws to make their Bruen ruling or used 14th Century English Church Law to overturn Roe v Wade.

                    It may be “the current ruling” but that doesn’t make it right.