• TheVelvetGentleman [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    This is not a joke: I had a coworker say almost this exact thing to me a month ago, and just last week he discovered that he has gout because he eats steak every day.

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    4 months ago

    I did start caring more about animals after I went vegan. I was never frying ants for fun, but I also never got sad about petting zoos, for example.

    So hey, maybe it’s more common that people adopt a moral system that makes meat seem less like food no matter how they start out.

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      4 months ago

      Yes, of course that would be the case.

      We come pre-built with a TON of instinct that initially drives our behaviour but we can override those with some information and effort by our big brains.

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        4 months ago

        Perhaps I should have said it differently. After decades of being a vegetarian, I went plant-based for the environment, then fairly quickly went vegan, because I started caring about animals a lot more.

        I don’t know if that’s just as obvious, but I was definitely surprised.

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    4 months ago

    What’s non-vegan about pasta?

    Semolina flour and water? Is that not the ultimate vegan food?

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        4 months ago

        I mean, that’s added to the pasta after, the pasta itself is just flour and water, cooked in salt water.

        Whatever you do to it AFTER THAT, well, that’s on you. ;) I personally don’t do cheese. Not vegan or lactose intolerant, I just don’t like cheese.

        There are plenty of pasta sauces that don’t involve meat, dairy or eggs.

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          4 months ago

          hello.

          its acktually spoiled filtered cow blood and it is delicious.

          I’m allergic though, and thus very appreciative of the vegan community for having alternatives.

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        4 months ago

        Most dried pasta is vegan, though. Unless specifically buying egg pasta.

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          4 months ago

          I wouldn’t have ever checked the ingredients on dried pasta if you didn’t tell me this. Thanks.

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            4 months ago

            You’re welcome! I don’t know why it’s so uncommon knowledge that pasta is just 2 ingredients, but this isn’t the first occurrence I told someone that didn’t know :P

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        4 months ago

        A lot of pasta sauces have butter in them, personally my favorite pasta sauce is a homemade tomato sauce by Alton Brown (https://altonbrown.com/recipes/pantry-friendly-tomato-sauce/ ), it’s vegan even though I’m not.

        I usually do a double batch once a month (more or less, depends on how quick we use it) and it fills up 3 32 oz mason jars with 4-8 oz extra. It’s amazing on pasta, pizza, eggs, burgers, meatballs, pretty much anything that’s good with tomato. Cheaper and tastier than buying jarred tomato sauce by far, plus you can make it as chunky or smooth as you want by how much you blend it. Only costs a few bucks to make too.

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          4 months ago

          I make Chef John’s tomato sauce which is not vegan as it has anchovies but could be made so by skipping them. It is delicious.

          While I do like a good pasta with just tomato sauce, I tend to love more complex ones most of which have something else in it that is not vegan unfortunately. Pasta itself would contain eggs (maybe dried pasta uses some vegan friendly substitute?)

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      If you cut out all of the pastas that have eggs, cheese, butter, milk, meat, shellfish, or fish (anchovies) then you’re cutting out the vast majority of restaurant pastas and the majority of pasta recipes you’ll find in recipe books unless they’re specifically vegan (restaurants or books).

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        Personally, I don’t see how forcibly impregnating cows and then taking their newborns away as soon as they are born in order to ensure we get all the milk could be considered cruel. Everyone knows that all non-human animals are simply automata with no ability to experience emotions. Cows, like dogs or cats, have no ability to feel so we can do anything we want to them.

        Also, veal couldn’t exist without our wonderful dairy industry. Think of all those veal steaks you’d get rid of without the newborn males to slaughter from the dairy industry.

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        4 months ago

        Apparently tons of deer are killed to prevent them from reaching fruit crops… no diet is 100% animal cruelty free

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          Vegans object to all forms of animal exploitation, and raising animals to take their eggs still involves a degree of that. Even in the most benign cases of free range, well taken care of chickens in the world, chickens have still been bred to lay an unnatural number of eggs, which is very hard on their bodies, and that’s being exploited by farming them for eggs.

          For anyone who buys eggs instead, know that the animals are not kept in these benign conditions. Even ‘free range’ factory farmed chickens are kept in small enclosures, with only a small window to the outside. There are no store bought eggs that can remotely be considered ethical.

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          4 months ago

          Me too, sometimes they’re real hard to push out, sometimes they shoot out liquidy and make me sweat, either way it can be a lot of work.