• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    You’re assuming that people in the military are going to be just fine with bombing cities where their friends live, or where they have family. If you’re going to say that the US military, run by fascists, is just going to steamroll actual patriots, that’s what you’re talking about. But the problem is that those pilots, the drone operators, the guys running artillery batteries, they’re likely going to know people and have friends and family that live in blue cities and states, and once they find out that their own friends have been killed as ‘collateral damage’, they’re likely going to be having second thoughts.

    Israel is able to level Gaza because there aren’t Israelis living in Gaza; how eager do you think members of the IDF would be to bomb the shit out of the Palestinians if they knew their own friends and family were getting killed with every bomb, and with every shell?

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      4 months ago

      Then you don’t need an AR15 because there’s no tyrannical army to fight.

      You can’t have it both ways.

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        4 months ago

        Here’s the lovely thing: I don’t need to demonstrate a need in order to exercise a right. I don’t need to prove I need to vote in order to have the right to vote. I don’t have to prove I need religion in order to be permitted to be religious.

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          4 months ago

          Oh so now you’re just abandoning any attempt to justify why a well regulated militia should allow you to carry around an AR-15 on the daily with no supervision.

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            4 months ago

            “Well regulated” is understood to mean “trained”.

            This is a settled question; 2a rights are individual rights, not hinging on whether or not I’m in a militia. They’ve been understood to be both an individual right and responsibility for nearly 250 years, despite attempts by fraudulent scholars to claim otherwise.

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              No. It’s literally from the Latin for rules. The word has never not meant to have rules and regulation.

              The idea of a well regulated watch or other gadget, is actually later.

              I know you’ve probably been told this myth your entire life but it’s just not true. And why it took the court 175 years to define the militia as every able bodied person.

              The founders were very aware of the dangers of letting people run around with guns and no regulations. That’s why the first sentence is there and why there were laws about guns in town for 300 years before the Bruen decision decided to ignore history while claiming to be historically accurate.