With JD Vance and all the fake populism, and now this. I don’t see any other path than the fascist one. Might be best to start looking at options to flee this hellhole.

UPDATE: They now have on a member of the Steamfitters union who is a “lifelong Democrat”… Yeah it’s pretty much over

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      That is the liberal belief, but there is no historical proof that that will be exactly how things unfold, it’s just conjecture. In fact 38% of people polled already believe it was his fault, is it really impossible to get maybe 13% more people to also believe it?

      Liberals have completely lost faith in the art of persuasion, and don’t think vividly enough when they try to game strategies out. How we say that it is his fault matters just as much, and if we say the Dems had policies which could have prevented the shooter from getting his gun, that we are just worried about whether the chaos of that rally will reflect the chaos of his presidency, these are the types of approaches that can make an on the fence voter go, “huh, that kinda makes sense, I never thought of it like that.”

      It of course has a chance of backfiring but it also has a chance of cutting down the polling bump he gets from being shot.

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      Trump is not uniquely fascist, but it’s totally his fault that he got shot, whatever contrarians feel about that fact. If he wanted to be safe, he could have just taken his first loss on the chin and retired, or better yet never run for President. The Presidency is a dangerous job, all the more so when you openly threaten people from many different walks of life.

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        Who is he openly threatening? And people have a right to run for office. What you claim makes no sense at all. Riding in a car can be dangerous. That doesn’t mean that it’s your fault if some drunk runs a red light and kills you.

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          I don’t really care what the law says someone can do, when you threaten immigrants, queer people, and so on, you shouldn’t be surprised if someone fights in their self-defense. The fact that the state says that its violence is legal and other violence is illegal has no bearing on that.

          Of course, that isn’t what happened, the shooter was a dumb kid with no clear motive since he had mixed political affiliation, but we’re just speaking in hypotheticals here.