You know what’s controversial? Bombing hospitals, schools and residential buildings.
You know what’s controversial? Blowing up a dam that destroys an entire region of the country.
You know what’s controversial? Keeping a nuclear power plant as hostage.
You know what’s controversial? Abducting children and taking them against their will to another country.
You know what’s controversial? Torture and mutilation of soldiers defending their home land.
Whoever says or implies at this late stage of russian atrocities that cluster bombs for Ukraine are “controversial” - fuck yourself gently with a rusted chainsaw.
EDIT: typo (half the time I try and type “of”, it comes out as “if”)
I disagree. The trouble with cluster bombs (as with landmines) is that they are indiscriminate killers. Sure, they may kill some Russian soldiers now, but the ones that don’t explode (a huge minority of them) will remain in the ground until an innocent Ukrainian child gets blown up years from now.
It’s fine to cheer on the ‘killing Russian soldiers’ part, but when it comes to cluster bombs that comes hand in hand with ‘killing innocent civilians, years after the conflict ends’, which is less okay.
Unlike the lifetime’s worth of land mines that are already there? It’s a drop in the water at this point, and I think Ukraine has the right to decide whether or not they use them on their own territory, especially considering the other option may very well be allowing Russians to come kill the civilian population with cluster munitions, something they are already actively doing.
soviet era cluster ammunition is already in use, and the more firepower ukrainians get now the less uxo from russian artillery remains in their land after the war
also ukrainians asked for cluster ammunition for the longest time, so they made the decision with full understanding of consequences (they were manufacturers and users of cluster ammunition for a long time)
You know what’s controversial? Bombing hospitals, schools and residential buildings.
You know what’s controversial? Blowing up a dam that destroys an entire region of the country.
You know what’s controversial? Keeping a nuclear power plant as hostage.
You know what’s controversial? Abducting children and taking them against their will to another country.
You know what’s controversial? Torture and mutilation of soldiers defending their home land.
Whoever says or implies at this late stage of russian atrocities that cluster bombs for Ukraine are “controversial” - fuck yourself gently with a rusted chainsaw.
EDIT: typo (half the time I try and type “of”, it comes out as “if”)
Those things being evil does not make cluster bombs less evil.
Russia approves using cluster bombs, so it’s fine to use them against Russia.
I disagree. The trouble with cluster bombs (as with landmines) is that they are indiscriminate killers. Sure, they may kill some Russian soldiers now, but the ones that don’t explode (a huge minority of them) will remain in the ground until an innocent Ukrainian child gets blown up years from now.
It’s fine to cheer on the ‘killing Russian soldiers’ part, but when it comes to cluster bombs that comes hand in hand with ‘killing innocent civilians, years after the conflict ends’, which is less okay.
Unlike the lifetime’s worth of land mines that are already there? It’s a drop in the water at this point, and I think Ukraine has the right to decide whether or not they use them on their own territory, especially considering the other option may very well be allowing Russians to come kill the civilian population with cluster munitions, something they are already actively doing.
soviet era cluster ammunition is already in use, and the more firepower ukrainians get now the less uxo from russian artillery remains in their land after the war
also ukrainians asked for cluster ammunition for the longest time, so they made the decision with full understanding of consequences (they were manufacturers and users of cluster ammunition for a long time)
I think that these newer cluster munitions deactivate after a set period.