• meep_launcher@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Took us out of the Paris Climate agreement

    Opened up the national parks for drilling

    Removed protections for more than half of our wetlands

    Withdrew legal justification for factories to limit mercury emissions

    Removed carbon caps on power plants

    One hell of a symptom

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      Thats not the stuff that is going to make the country fall apart. You should be more worried about the election in november and the results of that, and how states are going to slowly (or maybe quickly) start to defy federal rules. Or the other big thing is WW3 that could happen in the near future. Or how people cant afford things very well anymore. The things you listed are arguable good things.

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        Climate change has already created draughts and food shortages. It has already pushed animals into ecosystems where they don’t belong leading to destruction of those ecosystems. Ocean acidification has been killing fish populations.

        These have created instability in countries across the world as people grapple with worsening conditions. This has lead to conflicts that have created massive amounts of refugees, which in turn has been creating populist and authoritarian attitudes in the west as we deal with refugees knocking on our door. This has created massive rifts in our societies and ultimately is the connecting factor for the issues we face.

        As my old history professor would say about global conflicts- it’s the bottom of the 9th, the bases are loaded, and it’s always mother nature up to bat.

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          Then we shouldn’t have declared war on, and declared mother nature our enemie. We could have respected her and accepted reasonable limits, rather than growth, expansion and profit at all costs, especially to ourselves. And we can stop doing that.

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            Oh yeah, we really screwed up the season by not picking Mother Nature in round one of the draft.

            “Hi I’m Troy McClure, you may remember me from such films as 'Man vs. Wild; the Road to Victory”

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          Have you noticed that they will claim that everything that is bad is a result of climate change? How do you know they are telling you the truth?

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              This is the equation; bad things happens with weather = climate change. Rains too much = climate change. Rains too little = climate change. I fully understand the explanation you are about to type, but you need to add a bit of skeptism to what you read.

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                Your patience and calmness are infinite, and I wish I could follow you on this instance. I too have been conditioned toward alarmism but have been getting over it, and I see your point.

                Like they kept telling us inflation was supply chain issues since COVID, but when you do the digging, it’s corporate price-gouging, from corporate farm to corporate processors, to corporate distributors, to the corporate chain stores. The only ones not making huge profits are independent retailers, who may or not have a higher or lower price than a corporation, on any given good on any given day (that doesn’t inherently make them good or evil). You’re making me think and the conclusions are certainly not ThE oBvIoUs ones. Thank you.

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                  Like they kept telling us inflation was supply chain issues since COVID … it’s corporate price-gouging, from corporate farm to corporate processors, to corporate distributors, to the corporate chain stores.

                  I think you have an issue with where you get your information. From the start I knew and all the sources I listen to knew this was much more than a supply issue things. And I know for a fact this is not an issue with “greedflation”. These are the things they tell you so that you dont point your anger toward the real culprit - government policy. Corporate controlled media is just going to tell you the things they want you to beleive, and when what they tell us is proven to be a lie, its so far in the past we forget what they said.

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                    Bear with me, I’m trying to learn how to think again. Firstly, where can I find quality information, and I don’t have money, so if it’s not freely accessible, I’m not getting it, and if it is, I’ve no idea where to find it.

                    Secondly, I’m willing to hear you out while also noting Democrats (big D) are major benefactors of corporate greed (eg Pelosi not wanting insider trading laws, and the stock market probably ought to be illegal, in my limited perspective).

                    Thanks.