• makeasnek
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    4 months ago

    Stewart’s episode is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was “no primary” is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that’s how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie’s primary chances?

    You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don’t care how good the DNC’s legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

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      There was effectively no primary, quit dissembling. What happened to the 18 month primary circuses of 2015?

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        “My city election for mayor didn’t have enough choices on the ballot so it effectively wasn’t an election and we should re-do the election”. Democracy is run by those who show up. Sometimes, not many people show up. Sometimes you don’t like the people who show up. Some people aside from Biden ran in the DNC primary, they lost. Anybody could have ran. If you don’t liked the limited field of candidates, in a democracy, your options are: vote for who is available and run. That’s it. Anything else (calling for another election because you don’t like the result) is not democracy.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

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          Sometimes the people are very clear and the establishment still chooses whoever the fuck they want a la 2016 but sure

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          Nobody showed up because the DNC wanted it that way. It’s standard operating procedure to blindly stand behind the incumbent because statistically incumbent has a higher chance to win.

          It’s the safe option, so the DNC put their weight behind Biden.

          If DNC actually wanted an open primary with all sorts of people trying to win, we could have done that. But we didn’t.

          Now it’s becoming obvious Biden has no chances of winning this election because of his deteriorating mental condition. Not only that, he’s even less likely to be an effective head of state. Why are we choosing to put ul an almost-senile guy to represent the strongest country in the world?

          I think another primary is fully justified. The best course of action would have been to have a real primary in the first place. But what else are you going to do at this point?

          Biden can’t win and even if he could he shouldn’t win