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    Because they are spineless cowards and various GOP operatives who have been doing this shit since Clinton and have become absolutely fuckin experts at it, came up to them in the locker room

    “Hey so I pretty much everyone thinks Biden is a loser now,” they said.

    “Really?” Said the media.

    “Oh my God, do you even have to ask that?” asked the GOP derisively. “Did you see him at the debate?”

    “I guess he did look pretty old…” said the media, thinking silently about when Trump said a wave of immigrants was coming in and killing our citizens at a level we’ve never seen.

    “Media, he looked like a fucking ZOMBIE. He looked like an old, old man who didn’t know what year it was. I hope they find someone new after this. They’re pretty much going to have to. There’s no way they’re going to stick with that guy. He looks like someone’s great grandfather. He’s finished,” said the GOP forcefully. And then, after a carefully timed pause, they turned. “Wait, you don’t think he did GOOD, do you?”

    And so on

    And then the GOP operative got paid almost two hundred thousand dollars a year, and the media went out and wrote the story it was goddamned well supposed to write.

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      Dude. The Democrats leaked like a sieve to the media after that debate. It wasn’t the GOP holding the knife.

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          I’m sorry but “charisma” is not a data point you can put into a model. The truth is everything in the modern era has been predictable for a lot of people. And polling may be snapshots, but by putting those snapshots together you can see trends really easily. The second the guy cherry picked the one poll that had Biden up the day after the debate I knew he wasn’t the kind of guy who actually runs math models. Nobody who “makes predictions” is doing so off of a single poll. And certainly not one that was either a flash poll or conducted before the debate. To get a look at how long getting that kind of data takes, we’re just now getting in depth data from battleground states that was gathered after the debate.

          He’s also guilty of something you’re not supposed to do if you’re in that game. He’s putting himself in play. Saying there’s some X factor only he knows about. In reality, even if there was such a factor, it wouldn’t matter. This is a crisis of confidence that Biden brought down on himself. And it won’t be easily gotten past. The question now isn’t, does Biden win in a traditional race because that’s gone. The question now is how much damage gets done here. Can he win with that damage? and can someone else win with the damage of a replacement? And you only need to read the news to see some of the party leadership and Donors have decided the answers are No and Yes.

          But also that answer during the interview didn’t help at all. He said he’d just be proud to do his best? This isn’t a fucking little league game. If he gets replaced or goes forward to lose, that’s the moment historians are going to point to.

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      Because they are spineless cowards and various GOP operatives

      You can’t possibly think that Democrat mainstays like The New York Times, The New Yorker, and The Atlantic are all being manipulated by GOP operatives.

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        “Democrat” as an adjective is notable, as is viewing the New York Times as a “Democrat mainstay”

        Before the 2016 election, yeah mostly. Definitely in comparison to most US media. But as mostly a Democrat looking at the NYT’s coverage in the modern era, I am mostly horrified by it

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        Corporate news, like the other wealthy folks, love their big tax breaks.

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          So, you think the New York Times secretly wants the Republicans to win, and none of the dozen or so experienced journalists who comprise their editorial board has said anything about it.

          Cool. I look forward to watching liberals tear down their own side because they can’t face reality.

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      They’re incentivized to push the agenda since Trump wants to put in more protection för big money

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        It’s not that. Anti-Trump media makes a buttload of money wringing their hands and saying how bad he is. He drives ratings.

        People stopped listening to him after he screwed up COVID. Plus everyone was tired of his antics after 4 years.

        Fuck the media. This is your future here. Don’t vote for Biden. Vote for better Supreme Court Justices, better laws, better executive orders, and less corruption.

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          Don’t vote for Biden. Vote for better Supreme Court Justices, better laws, better executive orders, and less corruption.

          And get… Biden.

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          It’s not that. Anti-Trump Anti-Biden media makes a buttload of money wringing their hands and saying how bad he is his chances are. He It drives ratings.

          FTFY. If you can’t see how the media pivoted from anti-Trump to Anti-Biden without missing a beat, I don’t know what to say other than I don’t think you’re paying attention.

          People stopped listening to him after he screwed up COVID. Plus everyone was tired of his antics after 4 years.

          Yeah, I don’t think you’re paying attention. The media and his donor class never stopped listening to him, outside of the couple weeks after J6 when consequences might have been a thing, and they’ve been giving him attention basically non stop for the better part of a decade now.

          It was nice for a while when it seemed like maybe he’d be losing sway in the republican party, but that time was mercilessly short and long gone.