I’m still annoyed that the US adopted In God We Trust as our national motto in the 1950’s. No idea how that got through and wasn’t deemed unconstitutional.
It is part of propaganda to demonise the officially atheist USSR from the God (never mind which god we’re referring to)- loving Americans. 1
Buddy Jesus is the best fictional Jesus.
Second best
You don’t fuck with the Jesus, man…
Eight year olds, dude.
You know this dude votes conservative.
Clearly you’ve never seen Korean Jesus.
I really like the Preacher adaptation too. But his removed clone (? Cousin? I forgot) steals the show.
If only the rest of the US could have made it as explicit as Vermont did:
No person ought, or of right can be compelled, to attend any religious worship, or erect, or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of his conscience.
–Vermont Constitution, Article 3
What about freedom from life? I only care about that.
Alternatively you can choose Fausticornism:
This meme, does that cheeky Jesus staue actually exist somewhere?
Was made for the film Dogma. I think Kevin Smith has an online merch store where they certainly used to sell them. “Buddy Christ”
Unfortunately, I think much of it is unavailable as they don’t want to further enrich Weinstein.
Ah. Bugger, did fancy getting one of those, but never got round to it…
Unless we’re talking about worshiping concepts like private property, greed, or human nature, all of which liberals adore quite fervently.
And none of those is a religion.
Then why do you get furious when I say we should abolish private property?
I think you’re confused, I’ve never talked with you before and I’m not furious.
How is Biden different from Adolph Hitler?
Obvious troll is obvious.
I’m happy to troll nazis anytime.
This isn’t an explicitly Liberal community?
Seems pretty liberal to me. Everyone’s jumping down my throat the instant I say that we don’t actually need to vote for genocide.
No it doesn’t, and that’s the problem.
It does, though.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prevents the government from making laws respecting an establishment of religion…
Literally written to protect people from religious persecution in ANY way
The radical right have repeatedly said that freedom of religion does not mean freedom FROM religion, and that is exactly why they have the “right” to force their religion upon others though law and courts. They read it as the Federal government is not allowed to choose one national religious sect, but states can enforce any religion they want, which happens to be a violent usurpation of “christianity”.
That’s not freedom from religion. That’s freedom from a religious state.
It only says that CONGRESS shall make no law. The states think they have that power to enforce a religion but the national government does not.
They might think that, but they don’t.
And yet, here we are…posting commandments in schools (and not Beatotudes) and removing women’s rights in accordance with God’s Plan
Yes, but it’s not actually constitutional to do what Louisiana is doing. It’ll get challenged in federal court before too long.
And the abortion rights thing is pure racism and control. They don’t want white women getting abortions because they don’t want to become the minority. Plus, the Bible literally has instructions for an abortion ritual, and says in multiple places that life begins at first breath.
I think get what you’re saying. Freedom from religion should be codified in some manner, and atheism should be afforded the same protections and rights. Right?
Kind of, but not really. Look at France, they have freedom from religion. They’re not allowed to be religious fanatics in public. It’s why they banned the burkini.
I mean, if they ban only Islamic religious symbols but not crosses, bhindis, or yarmulkes then they’re just punching down on a vulnerable and powerless minority. A society is only as good as it treats its most vulnerable, otherwise their culture is “might is right”, which isn’t a culture per se.
France managed this by forbiding all religious displays of any kind in any public place, unless it’s over 200+ years old then it’s protected for being a historical display. Nothing outside of Catholicism has any display that old. Bing bang boom, only Catholic displays of a religious nature are allowed.
I think you missed the forest through the trees on that one. I agree that you can’t half ass it though.
Come on over to my neck of the woods…Conservatives are cutting all the trees down in clear-cuts.
They’re not allowed to be religious fanatics in public.
Oh they very much are. As long as it’s christian.
You’re also missing the forest through the trees.
You’re also missing the forest through the trees.
This is the sort of thing someone says when they really don’t know what to say but want to sound like they have Very Profound Thoughts.
Okay, since you need it spelled out… France may not have appropriately applied its freedom from religion, but that isn’t the point. The point is a country like France doesn’t just have freedom from a religious state, but also extends that further, and that’s the part we (the US) are missing. You got hung up on the detail instead of paying attention to the meaning I was conveying, hence missing the forest through the trees. There is nothing profound about it at all, just saying you’re looking far too deeply instead of looking at the bigger picture of what was said.
You got hung up on the detail instead of paying attention to the meaning I was conveying
Ima thinking what we have here is a failure to communicate, not so much a failure to understand.
Then it sounds like they don’t have freedom from religion or freedom of religion. So I still don’t get what you think the issue is.
No I think they made a really good point that you are ignoring because it doesn’t suit your narrative.
When countries ban minority faiths they effectively reward the majority one.
You can have freedom from religion without abolishing religion.
That would be a good point of France wasn’t just an example. I’m not saying to emulate them exactly.
How about people are allowed to believe what they want? You know fucking freedom
Just as long as you include the less traditional religions too, which the big one would be the LBGTQ+ belief system in the west.
No one wants to get in your way to worship cock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam
We worship both
If you’re not already living on a different planet, please do so at your earliest convenience.
Just as long as you include the less traditional religions too, which the big one would be the LBGTQ+ belief system in the west.
WTF?
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve heard.
What’s the LGBTQ+ belief system in the east according to you? That’s what I wanna know.
The west refers to the western countries. The east doesnt have the same LBGTQ+ thing going on.
No shit, Sherlock. Hence the question.
I am sorry Waston, I dont know which east you are talking about, and I am not familiar enough about their culture to answer questions about them.
I always find it amusing when theists use the word religion as a pejorative. Ok buddy, that says a lot more about you than it does about the subject matter.
How is me being Trans the same as a religious person forcing their beliefs down my throat?
Its not necessarily you, but your community and allies are using force to make people comply with your beliefs whereas the religious very rarely do this (in america). Its soft force, but definitely force is being used.
Beliefs? How is it a belief that we should be given basic human rights like access to healthcare and correct documentation?
Its more about how soft power get used so that you have to comply with your belief system or you get kicked off various platforms, and in other countries can be imprisoned for saying mean things.
