• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    4 months ago

    Neither of us live or are from the USA. So I don’t think this is relevant here.

    A lot of foolishness is born in the US but doesn’t stay here. It might still be relevant.

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      4 months ago

      Well they believe in a social safety net, which US libertarians don’t. So I wouldn’t necessarily put them in the same bracket. I still think their politics is somewhat foolish, but I think the same thing of many far left people.

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        4 months ago

        I find that foolishness is spread pretty evenly across the political spectrum. I think most people believe what they want to believe and figure the “details” will work themselves out. Anyways, here in the US, the “far left” means things like universal healthcare, which seems a lot saner to me than the alternatives.

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          4 months ago

          The idea of universal healthcare being far left wing would be obscene where I live as it’s already a reality here in the UK and in much of Europe. Far left to me is Marxists, Anarchists, and left accelerationists.

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            4 months ago

            There is a surprising variety among even those who call themselves Marxists or anarchists. Some are way more practical than others. Marx was first and foremost a critic of capitalism, and his criticisms were way ahead of their time and right on the money. Anarchism covers a whole lot of ground that I wouldn’t consider anarchism myself. The umbrella basis for anarchism is anti-authoritarianism. To me, that makes them less extreme than authoritarian socialists like in the Soviet Union or China. I’d consider myself an anarchist, but only in the margins that realize that government does play a critical role in establishing and defending freedoms.