So maybe the issue isn’t religion or the absence there of, but that shitty people will find excuses to justify their shittyness. That would make focusing on religion a waste of time.
laws based on what? what kind of education? how do we achieve reasonable laws and enforcement?
my point is that we both advocate for humanity. the path is see towards that is a secular one. most of the obstacles to what we want are based in religion.
The obstacle I’m seeing is the police not doing their job. They’ve already talked to one of the assailants, they know who they are, and have done nothing. Let’s start there.
Lol what? You are delusional. I’m not sure Orthodox Slavs would agree that WW1 and the subsequent Russian Civil War were “secular” wars considering most propoganda from that time was highly religious and they were seen as “holy wars” by both Slavs and Germans. The Ottomans literally were a Sharia state and the Sultan framed the war as a Jihad against the enemies of Islam. There was deep religious subtext in WW1 from nearly all the major European powers.
Both world wars were caused mostly by nationalism/ethnic conflict and recent history/economic problems. Secularism had literally not a single thing to do with it. Where exactly do you get this “WW1 and WW2 were caused by secularism” delusion from?
Secularism has caused two world wars and we’re heading for a third.
how many wars has religion caused?
So maybe the issue isn’t religion or the absence there of, but that shitty people will find excuses to justify their shittyness. That would make focusing on religion a waste of time.
so then what do you focus on as a cure for humanity?
Laws, enforcement (what’s being asked for here), and education.
laws based on what? what kind of education? how do we achieve reasonable laws and enforcement?
my point is that we both advocate for humanity. the path is see towards that is a secular one. most of the obstacles to what we want are based in religion.
The obstacle I’m seeing is the police not doing their job. They’ve already talked to one of the assailants, they know who they are, and have done nothing. Let’s start there.
yeah, fuck the police.
but i’m telling you, we are looking at the symptoms instead of the disease.
Are you claiming secular bigots don’t exist?
How many wars has secularism caused?
not nearly as fucking many as religion has caused. are you seriously advocating for a more religious world?
Lol what? You are delusional. I’m not sure Orthodox Slavs would agree that WW1 and the subsequent Russian Civil War were “secular” wars considering most propoganda from that time was highly religious and they were seen as “holy wars” by both Slavs and Germans. The Ottomans literally were a Sharia state and the Sultan framed the war as a Jihad against the enemies of Islam. There was deep religious subtext in WW1 from nearly all the major European powers.
Both world wars were caused mostly by nationalism/ethnic conflict and recent history/economic problems. Secularism had literally not a single thing to do with it. Where exactly do you get this “WW1 and WW2 were caused by secularism” delusion from?