This is why it’s so frustrating to see people saying they won’t vote because Biden is old (yes) and supports Israel (mostly true, albeit more complicated than that). Neat, but if Trump gets reelected, I’d be willing to bet that most of the conservative justices suddenly retire and we end up with a bunch of 35 year olds with lifetime appointments who can spend decades fucking stuff up. Hooray!
It’s so dumb, I don’t understand why people just refuse to think about the long term consequences instead of just “i want to vote for the perfect person right now so if no one is perfect i won’t vote.” Like I know Biden is a terrible candidate, but like I’d personally like to still have a department of education by the next election???
If they can’t grasp they are voting for a executive branch run by thousands of people either attached to one 80 year old or the other is the reality of this, it’s going to be hard to convince them.
Trump wins that means we’re back to the foxes running the hen house in every government office, all the worst of Trump cronyism will be back and 1000x worse.
You know whats dumb? Sticking by geriatric mentally infirm candidates. Literally they say on every network on TV that this election will be decided by double haters (people who hate both candidates), yet the population refuses to vote third party (such as the wonderful Chase Oliver who is on the ballot in all fifty states) despite the establishment clearly showing it refuses to change. You are the dumb one to me, you defend a terrible candidate who isn’t even all there, tell me how he defeated medicare during his term?
I would love to vote third party, but there is no chance of a third party winning until we have rank choice voting or another improved system, at this point it’s just a waste of your vote
A waste of your vote is support a terrible candidate because thats just how its always been done. Why even vote, you don’t want actual change. The fact that everyone seems to be a double-hater while refusing to vote third party is insane. Both Biden and Trump want you to think they are the only choices, thats why they specifically refused to let anyone else at the debate.
A third party hasn’t won a single state since 1968. Unless you have some master plan to get enough people behind one specific candidate to make them win not just a state but the entire electoral college, it’s not going to happen. If we keep letting republicans get into power it is just going to put us further away from any kind of election reform that would allow a third party to win. If we don’t back biden, trump will win.
My plan is to support and vote Chase Oliver and tell everyone I possibly can about him and point them to his website https://www.votechaseoliver.com/, he is also the only third party on all 50 states voter rolls. My plan is literally just to inform everyone, right now the only resistance I have is that people like you say he can not win against the two most foul and unlikeable candidates, which sounds like an excuse to stay with the status quo.
We already did that. Every fucked up thing the courts are doing is a trump judge for life.
- find judge’s name
- search
- see who appointed them
It’s every time.
Don’t be angry against the players, be angry angainst the game. Your elections are shit
B-b-bit Biden is old and I don’t feel excited! /s
🤦🏽
Maybe the establishment shouldn’t put such a loser up for president. The Hillary Clinton defense is repugnant.
If you’d had held your nose and voted for Clinton we wouldn’t be here right now. 🤷
Holding one’s nose every 4 fucking years isn’t a good system. If Biden isn’t pushed to retirement, we’re going to lose. Maybe that’s what we deserve.
So enabling fascists as a protest of some kind is your plan?
It’s what you deserve maybe, not the rest of us.
No, I’ll vote for the NotTrump party. But if he still wins, I’ll just consider it part of the natural evolution of the kind of system that it is. We’ll have to fight for it back, it won’t be easy, there could be a lot of blood, but, I think, democracy is worth it.
Vote
Maybe we can’t, but we can certainly not vote and make things much worse!
Voting isn’t the only way to have a democracy. Try to build an opposition outside parliament.
Oh sure that is great plan.
One man’s dissentor is another man’s dissident.
You know what happens to dissidents?
First, a list is created. Names are checked off, collated, cross referenced. Names become numbers.
Numbers are collected or concentrated together. After the concentration, solutions are devised, mulled over. And then there is solution that is final.Fucking vote. Vote like your life depends on it. Because it fucking does.
Nice strawman.
Nice addition to the camps.
If your system is so far gone that an non-parliamentary opposition will be put into camps, then why are you not fighting to abolish it?
Yeah here we go. Wahh the liberals love genocide and wont let us have third parties. Whatever.
We absolutely 100% without any doubt CAN vote ourselves out of this - that is exactly how it works. It doesn’t work in 5 minutes, it’s not a videogame, but c’mon. Help paddle already.
What’s your plan B? What will you do, if Trump wins, or Biden wins and they’ll have a successful insurrection? How will you avoid the next Trump successor?
What we’re supposed to do: conduct ourselves as best we can, organize and choose a candidate, and vote to elect them.
If trump wins and they strangle democracy, of course, that’s a different and very horrible story.
If Biden wins they will not have a successful insurrection. Any thoughts that they would are just gravy seal yammerings.
I think you’re dangerously naive for two options and defeatist for the other one.
Well, we got this SCOTUS by abstaining in 2016. That clearly only results in giving up more rights.
The Supreme Court has been fully corrupted. A dictator is probably going to win the presidency. We need to do something stat
What do you propose?
Unspeakable acts
ECMETHRIBLSW…?
Glad I’m not the only one that tried to read the capital letters…
Taking A Handmaid’s Tale as a development plan is an interesting play, to be sure.
E C M E T H R I BL S W
omg if you rearrange the letters it spells “BEWITCHERS” and “ML”. And we all know “ML” can only stand for one of two things:
- machine learning, as in the robots are taking over and ruining society, or
- :3 mlem :P
he knows!
Sorry if this sounds ignorant, but what’s the pattern?
Movement toward christofascism.
See: The Handmaid’s Tale.
It does sound ignorant, but…
It’s the USA’s rapid descent into a theocratic/fascist country
