President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

  • Dissasterix @lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This is the sad reality. Gun violence is generally committed by sick people. Similarly, I saw this chart a few years back on Australian gun/knife violence. The plots are mirrored. Violence is sort of static.

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      1 year ago

      That plot is in percentage. Of course violence is static. Because 100% of homicides are violent. Let’s see total number of homicides per year.

      Edit: To clarify, if gun and non-knife homicides dropped to zero, and knife homicides dropped to one, that plot would show knife homicides skyrocket to 100%. The plot isn’t demonstrating the trend you think it is.

      • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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        The loser of a knife fight dies in the street, the winner dies in the hospital.

        I don’t recall the origin of that or whether that’s the exact wording but the general idea at least has stuck with me.

        • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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          If you run away from a guy with a knife, you have to outrun the knife-wielder. If you run away from a guy with a gun, you have to outrun the bullet.

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          That doesn’t mean what you think it means. You are not twice as likely to die form a stab wound, if you are treated quickly fort a stab wound you are much more likely to survive compared to a gunshot wound. You need to look at the incidence of death percentages:

          “(Gunshot wound: early, 2.0% vs. late, 4.9%; Stab wound: early, 0.2% vs. late, 1.1%)”

          So a stab wound if treated early has a 0.2% chance of death compared to a gunshot wound which has a 2% chance of death, meaning gunshots are 10 times as deadly. Under late treatment its 1% chance of death for stab wounds, and 4% for gunshots, so gunshots are 4 times as deadly.

          Even late treated stab wounds are half as deadly as early treated gunshots. Gunshots are far more deadly than stabbings.