When asked about Hind’s killing, the U.S. said that, according to Israel, the Palestine Red Crescent Society and U.N. have not helped investigate.

The Israeli military never contacted the Palestine Red Crescent Society about Israel’s killing of a 6-year-old Palestinian girl, her family members, and the paramedics sent to save her, a Red Crescent spokesperson told The Intercept, refuting the State Department’s first substantive remarks about the killing that took place 148 days ago.

“Since the attack at our ambulances that was dispatched to save Hind Rajab, there has been no investigations made by the Israelis or any contact from the Israelis to the Red Crescent,” said spokesperson Nebal Farsakh. “We as the Palestinian Red Crescent have not received any kind of communication from the Israeli military.”

“All I can tell you is what they’ve told us. And what they have said is, they went to the U.N. and the Palestinian Red Crescent and asked them to supply information that would help them, and what they claim is that they were given none,” Miller said.

His comments came on the heels of an independent investigation by the U.K.-based firm Forensic Architecture, which concluded that Israeli fire was most likely responsible for the attack, and that it was “not plausible” that Israeli forces would not have seen who they shot 335 bullets at.

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    Not really. The Great Famine that the British forced on Ireland took 7 years. The Holodomor took multiple years. Even The Holocaust went on for years and that was industrialized genocide and not a deliberate famine. Not all genocides are quick.

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      Oh ok, so when third parties were trying to negotiate the ends to the Holodomor, Holocaust, and potato famine were those people trying to end those guilty of genocide?

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        We’re probably never going to be able to see eye-to-eye on this since you clearly see the war as the Jewish people vs. the Palestinian people. Meanwhile, I see it is as two groups of right wing fanatics fighting each other while civilians are caught in the crossfire, at best. But to me, it looks a lot more like they’re deliberately being starved, slaughtered, and/or held hostage.

        Maybe someone else on here has the time to debate a sea lion if you want to post more but it’s Taco Tuesday and I have important taco-related business to attend to.

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          I see the conflict as Hamas wanting to kill as many Jewish people as possible, since Hamas has said so, multiple times.

          Hamas should surrender.

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            **16. **Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

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              Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’s political bureau, says in an interview with a Lebanese TV channel that the terror group will repeat the October 7 attack time and again until Israel is annihilated.

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            “Hamas should surrender”
            And I guess until they do, Israel will continue to kill children? I mean, if the baddies are hiding behind children you are fully allowed to bomb them into a red mist. Just say they were hamas and you are good to shoot and bomb them. It’s only just because, you know, hamas!

            Israel has lost all morality and has become which they suffered so much under.

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                You are implying, or outright saying it, that it is OK to bomb children. You support that because, what else can Israel do? Right? How about: don’t bomb your way through children

                Discussing the morality of hiding behind children is another one all together. I (almost) cannot believe you hold this opinion. Turning 5 year olds into a red mist of blood because…reasons. You want it justified, you want Israel to be able to kill little children.

                No need to reply, you are a despicable person holding these opinions.

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                  I don’t want anyone to die.

                  I also want Hamas to be held accountable.

                  I also - now, try to follow along here - don’t personally command the Israeli army.

                  This might shock you but I’m not pointing at things telling them where to shoot or bomb.

                  This is going to also be a pretty big shock to you, but, bear with me.

                  If Hamas surrenders right now then this conflict ends.

                  If Hamas didn’t attack on 10/7 then this conflict wouldn’t be ongoing.

                  Once this conflict is over there will be millions of Palestinians living in and around the region.

                  Oh also one other thing - you’re fine with mass murder and carnage, as long as it’s against Israelis. That’s what you’re saying when you don’t say Hamas should surrender.

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                    You are so, so wrong here. These children are not hamas, yet you equate them nonetheless. Notice how I did not take a side other then the children’s side. And yet, you argue.

                    This tells me all I need to know, I have seen your stance already. Not because I want to see something, it’s your arguing the matter that tells all I need to know.

                    “Oh also one other thing - you’re fine with mass murder and carnage, as long as it’s against Israelis. That’s what you’re saying when you don’t say Hamas should surrender.” And there it is, took you long enough. None said any such thing, you are making this up and you know it. Next up: calling me an anti-semite…

                    All I did was argue to not kill children and you argued and keep arguing it is an option, a valid option at that. See, if only hamas surrenders right now then all will be fine. This is a lie, a way to justify the killing of children. Well, you argue this point while you know the little children have no say in this at all. So instead of making the correct moral decision to not kill children, Israel chooses to do so anyway, knowing fully well that the kids have no say in the matter.

                    You keep being despicable and it just gets worse with each post.

                    It’s OK to hold Israel to account for killing innocent people, it is OK to ask Israel to stop bombing little kids. You will not loose anything of value of you are opposed on these stances. Be good, take the moral path. This is a softball position to hold and yet…you fail at it.